No point in eternal agony

[purplepurpose]

There is no point in eternal agony for people and God. It's a good way to scare in to submission, but scenario itself seems pointless.

[Minimalist]

So noted:

“The doctrine of eternal punishment is in perfect harmony with the savagery of the men who made the orthodox creeds. It is in harmony with torture, with flaying alive, and with burnings. The men who burned their fellow-men for a moment, believed that God would burn his enemies forever.”

― Robert G. Ingersoll

Of course, if you want to keep the dolts showing up to fill the collection plate it works wonderfully!

[vorlon13]

There is no point in eternal agony for people and God. It's a good way to scare in to submission, but scenario itself seems pointless.

You're missing the point, God, as Omniscient and All Powerful as He is, can be INFINITELY disappointed in specific members of His creation and they therefore merit ETERNAL and INFINITE punishment when they fail Him.

[purplepurpose]

There is no point in eternal agony for people and God. It's a good way to scare in to submission, but scenario itself seems pointless.

You're missing the point, God, as Omniscient and All Powerful as He is, can be INFINITELY disappointed in specific members of His creation and they therefore merit ETERNAL and INFINITE punishment when they fail Him.

If He can, why not? I wouldn't do that, if I were Him. I would just erase rebels and they would never wake up from a deep sleep.

[Chad32]

Punishment is usually a means of correction, or a means of getting rid of someone permanently. Eternal punishment kind of removes the point, as you're torturing someone for eternity. You could easily just blink them out of existence, or change the way their brains work. Which is kind of what would have to happen for anyone living in heaven anyway. Otherwise heaven would be temporary. So it doesn't make sense, aside from the authors just hating the other, and wanting them to be in pain. It's petty sadism.

[Brian37]

There is no point in eternal agony for people and God. It's a good way to scare in to submission, but scenario itself seems pointless.

Absolutely pointless. It is a concept of revenge, not one of containment or correction.

BUT, having said that, concepts of god/Gods/deities, in ALL of religion worldwide are not the only concepts of pre and post life punishment/reward.

In many Native American and Asian religions, there is a concept of worship of ancestors and a recycle of life, in that if you do well now, you get a better life in your next. All are still primitive concepts of regulating behavior.

[purplepurpose]

There is no point in eternal agony for people and God. It's a good way to scare in to submission, but scenario itself seems pointless.

Absolutely pointless. It is a concept of revenge, not one of containment or correction.

BUT, having said that, concepts of god/Gods/deities, in ALL of religion worldwide are not the only concepts of pre and post life punishment/reward.

In many Native American and Asian religions, there is a concept of worship of ancestors and a recycle of life, in that if you do well now, you get a better life in your next. All are still primitive concepts of regulating behavior.

It isn't primitive. It's unbearable to believe that your an lab rat and if God wants, eternal one. And if He wants you can be burned for years, for starters.

[Brian37]

Absolutely pointless. It is a concept of revenge, not one of containment or correction.

BUT, having said that, concepts of god/Gods/deities, in ALL of religion worldwide are not the only concepts of pre and post life punishment/reward.

In many Native American and Asian religions, there is a concept of worship of ancestors and a recycle of life, in that if you do well now, you get a better life in your next. All are still primitive concepts of regulating behavior.

It isn't primitive. It's unbearable to believe that your an lab rat and if God wants, eternal one. And if He wants you can be burned for years, for starters.

Well again, polytheism, and monotheism ARE NOT the only concepts of punishment reward. Reincarnation and ancestor worship are just as old as the polytheism and monotheism we often think of today.

But I do think the human like deities of humanity, BOTH polytheism and monotheism, do put humans as more of a lab rat position. 

Even the gods of the Ancient Greeks and Romans, treated humans as their poker chips. 

Even the famous ABBA song "The Winner Takes It All" line,

"The gods may throw the dice
Their minds as cold as ice
And someone way down here
Looses someone dear"

But the same can be said for monotheism.

God does his will, and no matter what we do or say, our groveling is still subject to his whims. It is the ultimate narcissism.

[vorlon13]

Try and look it from God's point of view; He created the entire universe and everything in it. His majesty and almightiness DEMAND infinite torments for those who cross Him.

What's the point of His existence if his mighty wrath can never be fully sated ??

In fact, it is generous of Him to wait an infinite amount of time for His miscreants to be adequately punished. Imagine the torments if He felt rushed to even the score!!

He has all the cards, it's just best to not piss Him off.

[Brian37]

Try and look it from God's point of view; He created the entire universe and everything in it.  His majesty and almightiness DEMAND infinite torments for those who cross Him.

What's the point of His existence if his mighty wrath can never be fully sated ??

In fact, it is generous of Him to wait an infinite amount of time for His miscreants to be adequately punished.  Imagine the torments if He felt rushed to even the score!!

He has all the cards, it's just best to not piss Him off.

The same can be said for Stalin and Hitler and Un.