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Proof of Jesus through Personal testimony. Christianity over other faiths
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RE: Proof of Jesus through Personal testimony. Christianity over other faiths
(January 21, 2018 at 6:55 pm)orthodox-man Wrote: I have read some posts which say the bible cannot be used to prove Jesus ever existed. My question is, why then, are there testimonies of people from other faiths who say they converted due to experiences they had with Jesus? Many people for example say they were close to dying or had a traumatic disease, asked Allah or Krishna (depending on their faith) for help with no response. However, when they asked Jesus, a bright light appeared and saved them. Examples are:
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there are many more examples of these. Why is it that even in meditation, near death experiences, and dreams that many people who convert say their own deities didn't help them when they were being attacked or had issues, but Jesus did? I'm not saying there isn't a rational explanation for this (it could easily be mind trickery here) but I just wonder, why do all these stories seem to suit Christians and not other faiths? I've even used google translate to look on google in the middle east or google india to see if there are testimonies of Islamic/Hindu people seeing their deities, but I cannot find it. What is the cause for this? 

Travis Walton claimed to have been abducted by aliens:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travis_Wal...O_incident

He even had witnesses to his abduction.  Do you believe him?  If not, why not?

Near-death experiences are the product of an oxygen-starved and dying brain:


Quote:In 2001, Sam Parnia and colleagues investigated out of body claims by placing figures on suspended boards facing the ceiling, not visible from the floor. Parnia wrote "anybody who claimed to have left their body and be near the ceiling during resuscitation attempts would be expected to identify those targets. If, however, such perceptions are psychological, then one would obviously not expect the targets to be identified."[124] The philosopher Keith Augustine, who examined Parnia's study, has written that all target identification experiments have produced negative results.[125] Psychologist Chris French wrote regarding the study "unfortunately, and somewhat atypically, none of the survivors in this sample experienced an OBE."[126]
In the autumn of 2008, 25 UK and US hospitals began participation in a study, coordinated by Sam Parnia and Southampton University known as the AWARE study (AWAreness during REsuscitation). Following on from the work of Pim van Lommel in the Netherlands, the study aims to examine near-death experiences in 1,500 cardiac arrest survivors and so determine whether people without a heartbeat or brain activity can have documentable out-of-body experiences.[127] As part of the study Parnia and colleagues have investigated out of body claims by using hidden targets placed on shelves that could only be seen from above.[127] Parnia has written "if no one sees the pictures, it shows these experiences are illusions or false memories".[127]
In 2014 Parnia issued a statement indicating that the first phase of the project has been completed and the results are undergoing peer review for publication in a medical journal.[128] No subjects saw the images mounted out of sight according to Parnia's early report of the results of the study at an American Heart Association meeting in November 2013. Only two out of the 152 patients reported any visual experiences, and one of them described events that could be verified.[129] The two NDEs occurred in an area were "no visual targets had been placed".[130]
On October 6, 2014 the results of the study were published in the journal Resuscitation. Among those who reported a perception of awareness and completed further interviews, 46 per cent experienced a broad range of mental recollections in relation to death that were not compatible with the commonly used term of NDEs. These included fearful and persecutory experiences. Only 9 per cent had experiences compatible with NDEs and 2 per cent exhibited full awareness compatible with OBEs with explicit recall of 'seeing' and 'hearing' events. One case was validated and timed using auditory stimuli during cardiac arrest.[131] According to Caroline Watt "The one ‘verifiable period of conscious awareness’ that Parnia was able to report did not relate to this objective test. Rather, it was a patient giving a supposedly accurate report of events during his resuscitation. He didn’t identify the pictures, he described the defibrillator machine noise. But that’s not very impressive since many people know what goes on in an emergency room setting from seeing recreations on television."[132][133]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Out-of-bod...tion_Study
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#42
RE: Proof of Jesus through Personal testimony. Christianity over other faiths
(January 23, 2018 at 11:05 am)Mister Agenda Wrote:
Godscreated Wrote:You do what you are accusing him of. Double standard.

GC

Unsupported accusation.

You got to be kidding he does it all the time and it was no accusation it's the truth, it's all he knows how to do, defending him is useless many thousands of post show his guilt.

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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#43
RE: Proof of Jesus through Personal testimony. Christianity over other faiths
Godscreated Wrote:
Mister Agenda Wrote:Unsupported accusation.

You got to be kidding he does it all the time and it was no accusation it's the truth, it's all he knows how to do, defending him is useless many thousands of post show his guilt.

GC

You assert things like this all the time and I've never seen you back it up. You're free to make an exception in this case.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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#44
RE: Proof of Jesus through Personal testimony. Christianity over other faiths
(January 27, 2018 at 12:09 am)Godscreated Wrote:
(January 23, 2018 at 11:05 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: Unsupported accusation.

You got to be kidding he does it all the time and it was no accusation it's the truth, it's all he knows how to do, defending him is useless many thousands of post show his guilt.

GC

Ah, the old christian love affair with "guilt".
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#45
RE: Proof of Jesus through Personal testimony. Christianity over other faiths
(January 29, 2018 at 11:31 am)Abaddon_ire Wrote:
(January 27, 2018 at 12:09 am)Godscreated Wrote: You got to be kidding he does it all the time and it was no accusation it's the truth, it's all he knows how to do, defending him is useless many thousands of post show his guilt.

GC

Ah, the old christian love affair with "guilt".

And judgment, even though they're not supposed to judge.
Thief and assassin for hire. Member in good standing of the Rogues Guild.
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#46
RE: Proof of Jesus through Personal testimony. Christianity over other faiths
(January 29, 2018 at 11:35 am)The Gentleman Bastard Wrote:
(January 29, 2018 at 11:31 am)Abaddon_ire Wrote: Ah, the old christian love affair with "guilt".

And judgment, even though they're not supposed to judge.

Judging others allays ones own sense of guilt, so they are related.
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#47
RE: Proof of Jesus through Personal testimony. Christianity over other faiths
The phrase "holier than thou" was coined for a reason.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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