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RE: You guys are right.
January 26, 2018 at 6:54 pm
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Here we go again. No, mystic, I don't believe in gods. Full stop. End of discussion.
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RE: You guys are right.
January 26, 2018 at 6:54 pm
(January 26, 2018 at 6:52 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Still failing, and still for the same reason. If you want to tell me about love...fine...but you'll never be an authority on what I should love.
If you want to talk about gods..then stop rambling about love and do that.
None has the authority but the authority, if you get my gist.....
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RE: You guys are right.
January 26, 2018 at 6:54 pm
But the peaches, Khem, think of all the peaches!
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January 26, 2018 at 6:56 pm
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(January 26, 2018 at 6:54 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: (January 26, 2018 at 6:52 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Still failing, and still for the same reason. If you want to tell me about love...fine...but you'll never be an authority on what I should love.
If you want to talk about gods..then stop rambling about love and do that.
None has the authority but the authority, if you get my gist.....
Wrong again. I am the only authority regarding what I love. If your beliefs rely on denying this brute fact..then your religion is false, and trivially false, at that.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: You guys are right.
January 26, 2018 at 6:57 pm
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(January 26, 2018 at 6:54 pm)Whateverist Wrote: But the peaches, Khem, think of all the peaches!
Humans love and value things.
The most thing valued by them is their biggest god, and sometimes we value things more but then realize it was for a hasty moment. It was an act out of haste, we didn't have patience.
We have to choose between the long road and short road.
A lot of people are hasty, then in their haste, don't want to think of the long infinite road ahead of them.
Love has a language, it teaches and knows everything. But I digress. I will better communicate is what I promise in the future.
(January 26, 2018 at 6:56 pm)Khemikal Wrote: (January 26, 2018 at 6:54 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: None has the authority but the authority, if you get my gist.....
Wrong again. I am the only authority regarding what I love. If your beliefs rely on denying this brute fact..then your religion is false, and trivially false, at that.
None has the authority but the authority is tautological, all your stating is that you are that authority.
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RE: You guys are right.
January 26, 2018 at 7:00 pm
(January 26, 2018 at 6:54 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: (January 26, 2018 at 6:52 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Still failing, and still for the same reason. If you want to tell me about love...fine...but you'll never be an authority on what I should love.
If you want to talk about gods..then stop rambling about love and do that.
None has the authority but the authority, if you get my gist.....
Yes we do. We also get that Christians like what they believe and Jews like what they believe, and Hindus like what they believe, and Buddhists like what they believe. Get in line, take a number.
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RE: You guys are right.
January 26, 2018 at 7:02 pm
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OMG Brian, I see at it again, one day I am going to make a very long thread to discuss why your thinking is so so so so wrong. But I will learn how to better communicate then come back.
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RE: You guys are right.
January 26, 2018 at 7:03 pm
(January 26, 2018 at 6:57 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Humans love and value things.
The most thing valued by them is their biggest god 
The problem here isn't communication..it's just that you're wrong. Trivially wrong, absurdly wrong....ridiculously wrong, lol.
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None has the authority but the authority is tautological, all your stating is that you are that authority.
I'm glad we've settled that, then. Since we've settled that, then you are wrong. I neither believe in nor love gods.
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RE: You guys are right.
January 26, 2018 at 7:08 pm
I think for better conversations in the future, Khemikal, I am going to have to put on ignore and swear on my soul never to peak.
You ruin every thread with none-sense way of arguing and I actually respond. 
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RE: You guys are right.
January 26, 2018 at 7:08 pm
The thing with all Theistic arguments, they need to start with why an all powerful God is not also all-obvious. I mean, I can't fathom a reason such a being would remain hidden. There is definitely not a good answer to it in the Qur'an.
If someone moves on to more nuanced arguments, like you do, before covering the big ones, its all kind of just white noise.
Islam has some other big big problems that need to be addressed before moving on. Like why it appears to be made by a man in the middle east, and not a divine being. For example Ramandan sometimes falls in the summer, but in the far north and south you have 18, 20 Or even 24 hour days. Making fasting impossible. How can a God possibly overlook a major detail like that?!
Of course he wouldn't, but a man in the middle east would. Everything in Islam points to human origins from a specific time and place, not from an all knowing supernatural being. I can't see any good evidence of that.
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