The Reasoning Behind DACA

[Shell B]

Immigrants work a hell of a lot harder to get here than you and I ever did, lol.  I worked as hard as...ya know...being born here.

I wonder if it Mexico hadn't lost Texas and the land lost in the Mexican-America War if the illegal aliens would still be invading the East Coast States for a better life?

Speaking as a person from the East Coast, that's fine by me. I've had two Mexican roommates in my life, both American soldiers, both pretty nice dudes. I wouldn't mind having more around, as long as they kept the hot sauce in Mexico. I don't know why they eat the way they do. They always have the shits.

[Mermaid]

If North Korea ever nukes the US the "dreamers" will be sorry they stayed.

What the fuck does that have to do with anything?

[SaStrike]

I like fox news. Alpha male I repped you

[Jane2d]

DACA recipients are different though. They came here as children, not aware that they were illegal, not having any say in the decision of their parents. They grew up thinking they were American, they contribute to society and pay taxes. More importantly, they can't get welfare or vote (I'm a legal immigrant and I can't do either of those things either). I don't think it's particularly fair to deport them to a country they don't know. We shouldn't punish children for the crimes of their parents.

Irrelevant.  Current law in the usa covers those brought as children.  They are supposed to return to country of origin within 1 year of becoming 18 years of age and can apply for legal status - with no penalty.  I do not believe any of the illegal children are unaware of their status at 18.  At 7, sure, but their families have real reason to make them aware of the status, self protection for one.

It is not fair for the people such as yourself, who followed the rules, jumped through the hoops to become legal residents.  I have worked with both, illegal and legals, and the general theme with the illegals not doing it the right way is it costs too much money and/or it takes too much time.

I have little sympathy for such excuses.  I have worked with people from war zones, refugee camps, poverty, chernobyl, work visa, etc who managed to do it legally, some pooling their money to send one or two relatives, then sponsoring the rest of the family.  Yeah, we are primarily a nation of immigrants, but the overwhelming majority did it legally.  At some point we have to just say enough is enough, you have to follow the rules or face the consequences and yes, these consequences will be imposed on the children you [the parents who brought them here] were responsible for.

[Mermaid]

DACA recipients are different though. They came here as children, not aware that they were illegal, not having any say in the decision of their parents. They grew up thinking they were American, they contribute to society and pay taxes. More importantly, they can't get welfare or vote (I'm a legal immigrant and I can't do either of those things either). I don't think it's particularly fair to deport them to a country they don't know. We shouldn't punish children for the crimes of their parents.

Irrelevant.  Current law in the usa covers those brought as children.  They are supposed to return to country of origin within 1 year of becoming 18 years of age and can apply for legal status - with no penalty.  I do not believe any of the illegal children are unaware of their status at 18.  At 7, sure, but their families have real reason to make them aware of the status, self protection for one.

It is not fair for the people such as yourself, who followed the rules, jumped through the hoops to become legal residents.  I have worked with both, illegal and legals, and the general theme with the illegals not doing it the right way is it costs too much money and/or it takes too much time.

I have little sympathy for such excuses.  I have worked with people from war zones, refugee camps, poverty, chernobyl, work visa, etc who managed to do it legally, some pooling their money to send one or two relatives, then sponsoring the rest of the family.  Yeah, we are primarily a nation of immigrants, but the overwhelming majority did it legally.  At some point we have to just say enough is enough, you have to follow the rules or face the consequences and yes, these consequences will be imposed on the children you [the parents who brought them here] were responsible for.

What difference does it make? The only argument I've seen is that it isn't fair and that it's illegal. That doesn't hold water.

[notimportant1234]

I don t understand why Trump is against imigration, does he know that most of America's population is rooted in europe?

[Wyrd of Gawd]

I don t understand why Trump is against imigration, does he know that most of America's population is rooted in europe?

What would George Washington do?

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/kendrick-...49849.html

[Thumpalumpacus]

[...] you try planning a wedding in < 7 months!).

Unless you're bent on a show-stopper, this is no hurdle at all. Throw a couple of hundred bucks at the county courthouse for the license, and step in front of the JoP ... done deal.

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It takes absolutely nothing away from us to keep the dreamers here.

^^^

If it doesn't hurt you, why hurt someone else?

Xenophobia sucks ... especially second-hand xenophobia. That's when you know it's bone-deep.

[Tiberius]

[...] you try planning a wedding in < 7 months!).

Unless you're bent on a show-stopper, this is no hurdle at all. Throw a couple of hundred bucks at the county courthouse for the license, and step in front of the JoP ... done deal.

Its only really no hurdle if you are fine with having it at a courthouse.

We didn't have a show stopper by any stretch of the imagination, but we still had to find a venue, send invitations, get food, etc. Oh, and the not so easy task of accommodating people flying in from the UK to attend the wedding. It was stressful, especially since in the middle of planning it I also had to ship all my possessions and move there.

I'm sure my experience counts for nothing though.

[Thumpalumpacus]

If North Korea ever nukes the US the "dreamers" will be sorry they stayed.

What the fuck does that have to do with anything?

Irrelevance is his bag. Don't spit on his game!

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Unless you're bent on a show-stopper, this is no hurdle at all. Throw a couple of hundred bucks at the county courthouse for the license, and step in front of the JoP ... done deal.

Its only really no hurdle if you are fine with having it at a courthouse.

We didn't have a show stopper by any stretch of the imagination, but we still had to find a venue, send invitations, get food, etc. Oh, and the not so easy task of accommodating people flying in from the UK to attend the wedding. It was stressful, especially since in the middle of planning it I also had to ship all my possessions and move there.

Get the legal wedding out of the way first, and then plan the ceremonial later. That way you buy planning time while satisfying legal requirements, and still get to spend a shit-ton of money.