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RE: AP says 90% of Workers get Tax Cut
February 3, 2018 at 1:20 pm
(February 3, 2018 at 12:41 pm)alpha male Wrote: (February 3, 2018 at 12:07 pm)DLJ Wrote: Just curious... have you read any studies on causes of crime?
Some, not many. Maybe you could post some...
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Not without getting permission but while searching for an interview with a professor whose name escapes me for now (I'm not good with names), I stumbled across this which sheds some light on the issue...
(February 3, 2018 at 12:41 pm)alpha male Wrote: Quote:You'll find a direct correlation between high crime rates and status inequality.
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Have you read any studies on crime victims? Poor people are more likely to be victims than rich people. Not sure why income inequality would cause poor people to prey on each other.
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Soft targets, perhaps.
(February 3, 2018 at 12:41 pm)alpha male Wrote: (February 3, 2018 at 12:07 pm)DLJ Wrote: It's a myth that rich people create jobs.
Consumption creates demand. Demand creates supply. Some clever people create/expand businesses to organise supply and create jobs and might get rich in the process. Consumption is the key.
Spread the profits and more people can consume. If the consumers are skint it all grinds to a halt. This is why some countries are considering Guaranteed Minimum Income strategies.
Those clever people work really hard to create those jobs, and they're not going to do so if they don't stand to make a good buck from it.
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Indeed. But they're not working hard to create jobs. More jobs is a by-product. Automation is a more cost-effective way of doing it. And automatons can't spend money.
(February 3, 2018 at 7:26 am)alpha male Wrote: (February 3, 2018 at 12:07 pm)DLJ Wrote: "Hey there!" says the Rest of the World, standing on the street corner in high heels and underwear, "No need to go back to your wife. We've cut our rates again."
Then what?
Then we cut as well, and make it up on the individual side. The rest of the world can only go so low.
Everyone can go to zero. Or in some cases, less than zero... see the bidding wars between US states to get Amazon etc. to set up shop.
So you are advocating raising taxes on individuals.
Have you shared your plan with Paul Ryan?
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RE: AP says 90% of Workers get Tax Cut
February 3, 2018 at 1:36 pm
(February 3, 2018 at 1:20 pm)DLJ Wrote: Not without getting permission but while searching for an interview with a professor whose name escapes me for now (I'm not good with names), I stumbled across this which sheds some light on the issue...
Abstracts are free, and I don't watch videos.
Quote:Indeed. But they're not working hard to create jobs. More jobs is a by-product.
Yes, and?
Quote:Automation is a more cost-effective way of doing it. And automatons can't spend money.
If we get to the point that that's significant, I'd support a universal basic income.
Quote:Everyone can go to zero. Or in some cases, less than zero... see the bidding wars between US states to get Amazon etc. to set up shop.
Yes, look at them - they all offer temporary incentives, because they do want tax revenue. Zero isn't a realistic number, or someone would already be there. It's not like it's just the US v. every other country as a whole.
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RE: AP says 90% of Workers get Tax Cut
February 3, 2018 at 1:44 pm
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(February 3, 2018 at 1:36 pm)alpha male Wrote: (February 3, 2018 at 1:20 pm)DLJ Wrote: Not without getting permission but while searching for an interview with a professor whose name escapes me for now (I'm not good with names), I stumbled across this which sheds some light on the issue...
Abstracts are free, and I don't watch videos.
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I'll interpret that as you wanting to end the conversation. Pity. I think you would have enjoyed it.
I'm sure you can find some abstracts if you are sufficiently interested.
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RE: AP says 90% of Workers get Tax Cut
February 3, 2018 at 1:49 pm
He's not interested.
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RE: AP says 90% of Workers get Tax Cut
February 3, 2018 at 2:56 pm
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(February 3, 2018 at 1:44 pm)DLJ Wrote: I'll interpret that as you wanting to end the conversation.
Or you could just accept it for what it is - a request that you provide links to studies you mention, or at least to related articles in the mass media.
I don't see posting videos as having a conversation. Do you?
Quote:Pity. I think you would have enjoyed it.
Maybe. If you can't put things in your own words and support claims you make, I certainly won't enjoy it.
Quote:I'm sure you can find some abstracts if you are sufficiently interested.
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This is the standard lefty/atheist MO lately - make claims, then when asked for support say go google it yourself or some such. No, that's not good conversation.
(February 3, 2018 at 1:49 pm)Shell B Wrote: He's not interested.
Correct, I'm not interested in watching videos. If I were, I'd be at youtube, not at a discussion forum.
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RE: AP says 90% of Workers get Tax Cut
February 3, 2018 at 3:20 pm
(February 3, 2018 at 1:12 pm)Shell B Wrote: I love it when people declare a huge economic overhaul a win a few weeks into its implementation (an incomplete one, I should add). I'm not saying the end-world scenarios are correct, but rather that your victory dance is at least 20 yards from the end zone.
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RE: AP says 90% of Workers get Tax Cut
February 3, 2018 at 3:29 pm
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I expect right wingers to ignore me, but when they wont even listen to those in their own party .
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/09/us/po...trump.html
Oh hate the NYT? Ok, how about Mitt Romney?
(February 3, 2018 at 3:29 pm)Brian37 Wrote: I expect right wingers to ignore me, but when they wont even listen to those in their own party .
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/09/us/po...trump.html
Oh hate the NYT? Ok, how about Mitt Romney?
And here is what McCain has said on the memo.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/sen...e97af24494
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RE: AP says 90% of Workers get Tax Cut
February 3, 2018 at 3:41 pm
I would not put to much credit in Jordan Peterson .
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RE: AP says 90% of Workers get Tax Cut
February 3, 2018 at 4:06 pm
(February 3, 2018 at 3:41 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: I would not put to much credit in Jordan Peterson .
I don't. You can find my critiques on almost all of his vids. His thinking is often accurate but rarely complete.
But he's not completely wrong. At least, he's much more right than those who are treating him like he's the New Messiah
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RE: AP says 90% of Workers get Tax Cut
February 3, 2018 at 4:13 pm
(February 3, 2018 at 4:06 pm)DLJ Wrote: (February 3, 2018 at 3:41 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: I would not put to much credit in Jordan Peterson .
I don't. You can find my critiques on almost all of his vids. His thinking is often accurate but rarely complete.
But he's not completely wrong. At least, he's much more right than those who are treating him like he's the New Messiah
Just saying that their are people who do just that
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