Objective/subjective morals

[Chad32]

It's bound to be on repeat when they equate sin to immorality, and teach their kids that people who don't believe in their god are immoral.

[Succubus]

It's bound to be on repeat when they equate sin to immorality, and teach their kids that people who don't believe in their god are immoral.

“One of the great tragedies of mankind is that morality has been hijacked by religion. So now people assume that religion and morality have a necessary connection. But the basis of morality is really very simple and doesn't require religion at all.”

Arthur C. Clarke

[Whateverist]

I only believe objective morals can exist with the existence of god otherwise everything is subjective, so this is where the atheist is screwed. 9/11, the three standard perceptions you can have with the moral compass and lack therof is 1. Evil action. 2. just a action(good and evil doesn't exist) 3. good action. Whichever one you pick for your subjective truth there is still two delusions that you're subjectivelyperceiving on a subconscious level. When bypassing the usa law and going straight to the theory there is no chief in command to dictate the absolute answer so all 3 of these perceptions(even though they cancel each other out) are valid with the theory for the individual that wants to perceive it differently than you. All 3 of these perceptions are impossible to be wrong with the theory but you're perceiving two of the answers as delusions so this is a contradiction within itself. If there are two delusion that are compatible with your theory then it means you don't even believe the theory is 100% truthful 100% factual on subconscious levels. That's whats behind the atheist mask of fact, logic, reason, science, intelligence,.They are all sitting on a subjective truth accompanied by two subjective delusion on a subconscious level which means they don't even believe it, It's all a mask to deny god while playing dumb that god doesn't exist.

Just tell me this.  Have you made it all the way around the block on which you live all by yourself yet?

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Also, anyone missing a sock?

[Chad32]

It's bound to be on repeat when they equate sin to immorality, and teach their kids that people who don't believe in their god are immoral.

“One of the great tragedies of mankind is that morality has been hijacked by religion. So now people assume that religion and morality have a necessary connection. But the basis of morality is really very simple and doesn't require religion at all.”

Arthur C. Clarke

Religion hijacks a lot of things. If it can't stamp something out, it will take credit for it. Something along the lines of "Do unto others as you'd have them do unto you" is older than christianity, despite being  famous Jesus quote.

[Simon Moon]

So, did the OP just knock over our pieces, crap on our chessboard, then fly back to his flock and claim victory?

One post, and gone....

Why am I always surprised at the dishonest behavior of theists? You'd think I'd learn...

[Angrboda]

Yep. Yet another shit and runner. Spent a whole 4 minutes cut and pasting this nonsense. And they claim their the ones with a superior morality?

[Succubus]

“One of the great tragedies of mankind is that morality has been hijacked by religion. So now people assume that religion and morality have a necessary connection. But the basis of morality is really very simple and doesn't require religion at all.”

Arthur C. Clarke

Religion hijacks a lot of things. If it can't stamp something out, it will take credit for it. Something along the lines of "Do unto others as you'd have them do unto you" is older than christianity, despite being  famous Jesus quote.

A bit since I spent a bit of time trying to find out just when this happened. I mean as a marketing strategy it really is a masterpiece, but I can't find the whodunnit! No matter what search terms I use all roads lead back to the Arthur Clarke quip. Well apart from the thousand and three apologist angles that is.

It says in the holy bible!
25:35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: 

Well yes of course the bible says that. But then isn’t that what decent people do anyway, you know, look after one another? If you shove a hot poker up the bible's arse it will tell you everything and anything you need to know: from how to cure Phimosis to making high explosives from polo mints.
Somewhere at some time some slimy fuck correlated being good with being with god. And oh boy did it sell.

Who was it?

[Minimalist]

I only believe objective morals can exist with the existence of god otherwise everything is subjective, so this is where the atheist is screwed.

Actually it is where you are screwed because I don't give a flying fuck what you think and even less for what you "believe."

[Succubus]

...Whichever one you pick...

Why did you pick color=#595959?

[KevinM1]

You know what's objective? Rock crushers. Those things objectively exist.