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Uber Pay Gap
#41
RE: Uber Pay Gap
(February 7, 2018 at 1:42 pm)alpha male Wrote: Long but interesting read:
http://freakonomics.com/podcast/what-can...r-pay-gap/

In short, a study found that male Uber drivers earn about 7% more per hour than females.

The Uber algorithm doesn't even know the gender of drivers, so that's not a cause. 
The researchers looked at selection by riders and found no discrimination against women there either.

The main explanations were:
1. Men drive a little faster and so complete more rides per hour.
2. Men stick with Uber longer than women, and so gain experience and better know profitable practices, like when and where to drive.

Since discrimination has been ruled out, is the difference in outcomes a problem?

Should Uber volunteer - or be forced - to bump women's pay 7% so that outcomes are the same?
What the hell? No!
Men are working for that extra 7%. And any woman who wants to earn that 7% fair and square can. 
That's equality.

(February 7, 2018 at 2:05 pm)alpha male Wrote:
(February 7, 2018 at 1:52 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Is anyone insisting that they should?

No. I'm asking a question. This is a specific case with good research. The general issue is equality of outcomes opportunity* vs. equality of results.

*Tx Rye

Working to get equality of results rather than opportunity isn't fair. It's not a man's fault he happens to be in the group who works slightly more, but he is working slightly more too, and he is earning his buck. 
The fairest thing is to give everyone a chance to earn more for more work. If someone decides they'd rather take a day off than get paid, that's their choice to make. If someone is willing to work harder to earn more, that is fair. The fairest thing is to ignore what gender/race/sexuality a person is and just give them the same chance as everyone else.
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#42
RE: Uber Pay Gap
(February 12, 2018 at 9:42 pm)Martian Mermaid Wrote: Working to get equality of results rather than opportunity isn't fair. It's not a man's fault he happens to be in the group who works slightly more, but he is working slightly more too, and he is earning his buck. 

I agree. Next question - where's the burden of proof? Seems to me that inequality of results is generally trotted out, with the implication being that there must be discrimination. Is that approach fair?
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RE: Uber Pay Gap
Your always know it's a left wing person when they get huffy about you using the right label for their beliefs. As though it matters.
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