Boston Globe Story for All the Future School Shootings

[Wyrd of Gawd]

Okay now your anti cop rhetoric has hit slightly unreasonable levels .And instances like this are far from common .

Try Google, "Cops shoot wrong man".

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Okay now your anti cop rhetoric has hit slightly unreasonable levels .And instances like this are far from common .

Try Google, "Cops shoot wrong man".

And remember, there are 1,000,000 cops in the US and 3.3 people, on average, are shot by police every day. On any given day you have a 1/300,000 chance of being shot by a cop. That's unjustifed, justified, accidental, all causes. 

Hard numbers, the cure to internet hysteria.

[henryp]

Try Google, "Cops shoot wrong man".

And remember, there are 1,000,000 cops in the US and 3.3 people, on average, are shot by police every day. On any given day you have a 1/300,000 chance of being shot by a cop. That's unjustifed, justified, accidental, all causes. 

Hard numbers, the cure to internet hysteria.

And even that's not how it really works.  A random person has a 1/300,000 (assuming your numbers are right).  Me, a white guy in a low crime area not doing anything risky probably has a 1 in 50,000,000 chance, or something absurd like that.  Averages do not apply to individuals.

[Cecelia]

And even that's not how it really works.  A random person has a 1/300,000 (assuming your numbers are right).  Me, a white guy in a low crime area not doing anything risky probably has a 1 in 50,000,000 chance, or something absurd like that.  Averages do not apply to individuals.

Chances your house will never be robbed.  Chances are you'll never need a gun for protection.  Apparently those chances are enough to dictate that you have an ABSOLUTE right to gun ownership though.  Funny how that works.  Or rather, how it doesn't work.  It's no different from everyone saying "PUT PRAYER IN SCHOOLS!" to protect from school shooters, but never rely on prayer at home.

[henryp]

And even that's not how it really works.  A random person has a 1/300,000 (assuming your numbers are right).  Me, a white guy in a low crime area not doing anything risky probably has a 1 in 50,000,000 chance, or something absurd like that.  Averages do not apply to individuals.

Chances your house will never be robbed.  Chances are you'll never need a gun for protection.  Apparently those chances are enough to dictate that you have an ABSOLUTE right to gun ownership though.  Funny how that works.  Or rather, how it doesn't work.  It's no different from everyone saying "PUT PRAYER IN SCHOOLS!" to protect from school shooters, but never rely on prayer at home.

I have no interest in owning a gun.  I'm also an atheist, so I'm not trying to put prayer in school, obviously.  

Now if I lived in a dangerous neighborhood, I'd reevaluate my need to own a gun.  The balls it would take for me to tell everyone living in a bad neighborhood who is facing real danger that they can't own a gun, because I'm worried about the 1 in 50,000,000 chance my kid might get shot at school is staggering.  We can't effectively disarm criminals.  People's safety is not guaranteed by the police/government.  For the most part, they are on their own, and the best the government can do is send the bad guys to jail after they rob/rape/murder your family.

[CapnAwesome]

They forgot: The media will cash in on the tragedy, at length and often inappropriately.

It’s not that simple. If they do too little coverage, they get complaints that they aren’t covering it enough. If they cover it excessively, they get complaints that they are being overbearing. There’s a fine line that I think most people wouldn’t be able to find.

It is excessive coverage though, when you consider it as a percentage of total murders in the US. I'd like to see inner city gang violence get equal time at a minimum, considering it's 100 times the problem of mass shootings.

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And even that's not how it really works.  A random person has a 1/300,000 (assuming your numbers are right).  Me, a white guy in a low crime area not doing anything risky probably has a 1 in 50,000,000 chance, or something absurd like that.  Averages do not apply to individuals.

Chances your house will never be robbed.  Chances are you'll never need a gun for protection.  Apparently those chances are enough to dictate that you have an ABSOLUTE right to gun ownership though.  Funny how that works.  Or rather, how it doesn't work.  It's no different from everyone saying "PUT PRAYER IN SCHOOLS!" to protect from school shooters, but never rely on prayer at home.

If chances are your house will never be robbed, and chances are you will never need a gun for protection, it just goes to show that the US is not really a dangerous place. Despite all the guns.

Personally though, I don't believe in gun ownership. I would never shoot someone to just to protect my money or things. I don't believe that a gun makes you safer. If someone comes to my door with a gun, and I pull a gun also, that is a less safe situation than before. I'm not going to get into a shootout over my stuff. I'll just give it to them.

I don't but any of the rights arguments about a good guy with a gun being able to stop a shooter. We've had tons of shooters in the U.S. and we have tons of armed people and I've never heard of a shooter being stopped by an armed person. Turning it into a firefight just makes the situation worse. Multiple shootings have been stopped by heroes with a good strong tackle though. So I don't really think a gun makes you safer really under any circumstances.

If I were a woman and potential rape victim, I might feel differently though.