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Evolution
RE: Evolution
More appropriate.

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RE: Evolution
(March 7, 2018 at 7:44 am)Succubus Wrote: The progress of the infinite consciousness.

I have everything by the Mahavishnu Orchestra but I don't recall that one. Perhaps it was found in a archive and only now released. Please tell me more.


Is not that difficult to understand Suc.

Infinite consciousness is already within.
Within us.
God is within so we already have infinite consciousness within.
Unfortunately our awareness can only grasp little of it.
Progress is all about grasping 100% of it.
How?
Through yoga mainly although yoga is not the only way.  Lightbulb

(March 7, 2018 at 8:15 am)chimp3 Wrote:
(March 7, 2018 at 4:35 am)Little Rik Wrote: That is not a challenge Rob.  Tut Tut
That is a suggestion.  Lightbulb
The challenge Rob is right here on this thread.
You can challenge me to demonstrate that evolution is related to the progress of the infinite consciousness and I challenge you to demonstrate that that is not the case.

Are you ready?  I'm all ears!
You know, I began researching the progress of the infinite consciousness and LR might be on to something. Really! I referenced the New Age BS Generator and found these snippets:

"Throughout history, humans have been interacting with the quantum soup via sub-atomic particles. Who are we? Where on the great mission will we be awakened? We are in the midst of a transformative ennobling of being that will be a gateway to the dreamscape itself."

"Consciousness consists of expanding wave functions of quantum energy. “Quantum” means a deepening of the ethereal. Transcendence is the driver of balance. Transformation requires exploration."

"Truth requires exploration. The nexus is full of atomic ionization. Life-force is a constant."

"The quantum cycle is calling to you via vibrations. Can you hear it? Although you may not realize it, you are consciousness-expanding. How should you navigate this infinite multiverse?"

Wow , Man! I can feel my chakras getting all jiggly!


Once you will cut completely all this intellectual crap  Panic you will find a very easy way to reach infinite consciousness.
How?
Simple Chimp.
All you got to do is to realize that all what is important is within and this within has been waiting for you to be discovered since some million of years from when you started you long journey from matter and then to plant, animal life and now this human life so why don't you try to know this within?  Lightbulb
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RE: Evolution
I see you're not going to read the two primers on evolution I posted. I understand your fear, it was all around me when I was a kid. Fear that they would see something that would send them to hell for a second of doubt. They're adults now, and they still have the same fears, and they teach these fears to their children in an awesome example of child abuse.
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RE: Evolution
(March 8, 2018 at 10:32 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: I see you're not going to read the two primers on evolution I posted. I understand your fear, it was all around me when I was a kid. Fear that they would see something that would send them to hell for a second of doubt.  They're adults now, and they still have the same fears, and they teach these fears to their children in an awesome example of child abuse.


Before you go any further with all your crap  Banging Head On Desk let remind you and your atheists mates what evolution is all about.  

Evolution come from Latin and stand for UNROLL.
Suppose you got a parcel.
Before you get to the content of such a parcel you got to unroll it or better say open the parcel.
Right?
To emerge, be revealed or become apparent, to unfold.

So what the parcel content represent after all?
YOU.
The real YOU.
Nothing else but YOU.
By unfolding all what prevent to get to the contents slowly slowly you got to the content.
To the real you.

Once you get to the real you you reach the goal of life and this is evolution.  Lightbulb

Darwin and company never got this point.
They only relate evolution to change.
Of course there is changes in evolution but changes for Darwin never related to progress because he never understood the meaning of the word evolution.  Lightbulb
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RE: Evolution
Yeah, you're not going to read the primers. Too scared. Got it.
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RE: Evolution
(March 7, 2018 at 1:27 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: Little Rik:

(March 7, 2018 at 8:31 am)Khemikal Wrote: No, it's not.  Evolution refers to change.  "Progress" would be your religious interpretation.

Darwin labeled biological evolution as "descent with modification."  That is the definition you, Little Rik, need to confront.  You need to show that consciousness goes from one life to the next, carrying the advantages with it, and that there is modification of consciousness somewhere within that process (learning doesn't actually modify consciousness).  According to you, humans are the pinnacle of evolution, and that when they reincarnate, they don't remember their past life.  So, by definition, there can be no descent with modification for humans as they are at the end of the line.  And we have no evidence of NDEs in plants and animals, so you're shit out of luck there.  Where's your evidence for "descent with modification" ?

So, that's the burden you have assumed, and by my lights, you haven't come close to meeting it for consciousness.


1) According to me, humans are NOT the pinnacle of evolution. (when I ever said that  Banging Head On Desk ?)
The pinnacle of evolution is to merge in the ocean of cosmic consciousness or to become one with God.

2) How can plants and animals can have an NDE?
As far as they are driven by mother nature instinct they can not possible have the free will so NDEs would not make sense in this case.

3) I don't give a fart what Darwin labelled as biological evolution.
As far as Darwin didn't know the meaning of the Latin word evolution his idea is a distortion of the original meaning.

4) Consciousness going from one life to the next DOES NOT NECESSARY carry advantages with it.
It really depend.
How can a rapist or a killer carry a better consciousness in the next life?
It will be just the opposite.

5) Finally NDEs already proved that consciousness carry on in the next life.

To conclude..........FAIL ONCE AGAIN ON ALL POINTS.

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RE: Evolution
Yup, he's too scared.

What's so scary, I wonder? The fear that he might learn something, I suppose. If he actually had any confidence in his beliefs, he could read anything without any worries at all.

He never will. It's too much of a challenge for him, and he's not up to it.
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RE: Evolution
(March 8, 2018 at 11:31 am)robvalue Wrote: Yup, he's too scared.

What's so scary, I wonder? The fear that he might learn something, I suppose. If he actually had any confidence in his beliefs, he could read anything without any worries at all.

He never will. It's too much of a challenge for him, and he's not up to it.

A ten year old with access to Google for the "big words" wouldn't have a problem with them.
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RE: Evolution
(March 8, 2018 at 11:31 am)robvalue Wrote: Yup, he's too scared.

What's so scary, I wonder? The fear that he might learn something, I suppose. If he actually had any confidence in his beliefs, he could read anything without any worries at all.

He never will. It's too much of a challenge for him, and he's not up to it.


You imply that by reading some books or some informations I suppose to learn something.

WRONG AGAIN SON.

There are millions of books or informations out there and most of them carry no truth of whatsoever so by reading them I only would waste my precious time.

Right here in this thread you and your little mates can show me the knowledge that you got from reading those books.
My guess is that is the usual BS.  Smile
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RE: Evolution
You're a coward, Little Dik.
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