Evolution

[The Grand Nudger]

He's probably getting downvoted by karma right now.  Might end up as a dog next life. So much for "progress".

[robvalue]

I made a mistake then. He's not scared to read other things, he's too lazy. He wants them spoon fed to him.

That's -800 Karma points.

[Angrboda]

Little Rik:


Darwin labeled biological evolution as "descent with modification."  That is the definition you, Little Rik, need to confront.  You need to show that consciousness goes from one life to the next, carrying the advantages with it, and that there is modification of consciousness somewhere within that process (learning doesn't actually modify consciousness).  According to you, humans are the pinnacle of evolution, and that when they reincarnate, they don't remember their past life.  So, by definition, there can be no descent with modification for humans as they are at the end of the line.  And we have no evidence of NDEs in plants and animals, so you're shit out of luck there.  Where's your evidence for "descent with modification" ?

So, that's the burden you have assumed, and by my lights, you haven't come close to meeting it for consciousness.

5) Finally NDEs already proved that consciousness carry on in the next life.

In order for there to be evolution, their has to be persistence of the 'scroll' across different lives ('descent').  In order for it to be an unrolling of the scroll, there has to be change which persists across those different lives ('modification').  You may not call it descent with modification but that is exactly what you are claiming, regardless of your opinion of Darwin.  Nothing about NDEs demonstrates reincarnation.  That's just your ludicrous interpretation colliding with your dogma about 'the system'.  But I'm all ears.  Feel free to explain how any NDE necessarily entails the existence of reincarnation in a future life.  You can't because they don't.  Aside from a bunch of irrelevant quibbles, you haven't actually disputed anything I stated.  You have a case to make.  Show that NDEs necessarily entail the truth of reincarnation, and show that the "unrolling of the scroll" persists across lives.  Your appeal to the past meanings of 'evolution' didn't change dick.  Make your case or shut the fuck up.

[Amarok]

) Finally NDEs already proved that consciousness carry on in the next life.

No it doesn't 

[chimp3]

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You know, I began researching the progress of the infinite consciousness and LR might be on to something. Really! I referenced the New Age BS Generator and found these snippets:

"Throughout history, humans have been interacting with the quantum soup via sub-atomic particles. Who are we? Where on the great mission will we be awakened? We are in the midst of a transformative ennobling of being that will be a gateway to the dreamscape itself."

"Consciousness consists of expanding wave functions of quantum energy. “Quantum” means a deepening of the ethereal. Transcendence is the driver of balance. Transformation requires exploration."

"Truth requires exploration. The nexus is full of atomic ionization. Life-force is a constant."

"The quantum cycle is calling to you via vibrations. Can you hear it? Although you may not realize it, you are consciousness-expanding. How should you navigate this infinite multiverse?"

Wow , Man! I can feel my chakras getting all jiggly!

Once you will cut completely all this intellectual crap   you will find a very easy way to reach infinite consciousness.
How?
Simple Chimp.
All you got to do is to realize that all what is important is within and this within has been waiting for you to be discovered since some million of years from when you started you long journey from matter and then to plant, animal life and now this human life so why don't you try to know this within?  

Lil Rik : I am trying , how's this:

"We are at a crossroads of interconnectedness and yearning. Reality has always been electrified with starseeds whose chakras are baptized in consciousness. We are in the midst of a sublime flowering of choice that will clear a path toward the cosmos itself."

"Our conversations with other spiritual brothers and sisters have led to a refining of hyper-Vedic consciousness. Who are we? Where on the great mission will we be reborn? Throughout history, humans have been interacting with the quantum cycle via bio-electricity."

"This life is nothing short of a deepening revolution of ethereal will. The goal of electromagnetic forces is to plant the seeds of flow rather than materialism. You and I are lifeforms of the universe."

Am I saying it right now, LR? I don't know why I didn't think of this before!

[He lives]

These days most people believe in evolution whether they are atheists, believer or anything in the middle.
The point however is to make sure that people know how evolution works otherwise is all futile.  

There is no point in believing in something if we do not know how the system works.
That would be faith rather than real knowledge.
It would be like a child that believe in Santa.
It would be all good but in the dream land not in the reality.

Here some question that we should know before we can say that we know what survival is all about.

1) Is evolution based only in body changes or involve consciousness as well?
2) What is driving evolution?
Survival only or involve also the need to reach some goal in life?
3) Are individual who are not able to survive lost for ever or will pop up in a different environment  most suitable to their capabilities to survive?
4) Did Darwin and other really studied other possibilities other than whether evolution is driven only by survival?
5) Can a plant evolve into an animal, an animal into a human or plant stay plant, animal stay animal and human stay human?
6) If evolution exist is because there is a goal to reach or is all about random chances?
7) Does evolution act like the gear of a vehicle that increase his speed as it change the gear?

We do not have real knowledge about how life on earth started. The only two possibilities are intelligent design and happenstance. After contemplating the intricacies of the human body with it's ability to reproduce, I believe that happenstance is an impossibility.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

We do not have real knowledge about how life on earth started. The only two possibilities are intelligent design and happenstance. After contemplating the intricacies of the human body with it's ability to reproduce, I believe that happenstance is an impossibility.

Luckily, what you 'believe' doesn't enter into it.

Boru

[The Grand Nudger]

We do not have real knowledge about how life on earth started. The only two possibilities are intelligent design and happenstance.

Why on earth would those two things have exhausted the list of possibility?  Is there no room in your cosmos for the predictably constrained product of organic chemistry?

After contemplating the intricacies of the human body with it's ability to reproduce, I believe that happenstance is an impossibility.

Meh, the "intricacy" of the human body is explained, and not an issue of how life on earth started.  We're a few years late to the grand opening.

[Amarok]

We do not have real knowledge about how life on earth started. The only two possibilities are intelligent design and happenstance.

This is a contradictory statement   

After contemplating the intricacies of the human body with it's ability to reproduce, I believe that happenstance is an impossibility.

 Their is nothing about the complexity of the human body that implies intelligent design . Just an assertion  of personnel credulity .

[Ravenshire]

Yeah, you're not going to read the primers. Too scared. Got it.

They're too advanced. What Drippy Dik needs is the Idiot's Guide to Evolution: Willfully Ignorant Edition.