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RE: What is happening in USA?
March 5, 2018 at 12:13 pm
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(March 4, 2018 at 2:02 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: Quote:The Dems put up a piss poor candidate and lost one of their largest voting bases to Trump. Their identity politics campaign didn't resonate with those voters in the Rust Belt and Coal States.
American voters proved their morons for falling for a con man and denying reality .
I hate to resort to name calling, but he is a con man. A proven con man. A lot of people that voted for him voted for him based on how he made them feel.
He said heds stop outsourcing but he outsourced his own jobs. (He's currently working on putting provisions from TPP into his renegotiation of NAFTA)
He had literally no experience in leadership and was such a shitty businessman that he had to go to foreign banks to get loans. American banks wouldn't do it any more, because they know they probably won't get it back.
It seems like the voters must have been ignoring these types of things. Or they just weren't brought up enough.
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RE: What is happening in USA?
March 5, 2018 at 12:24 pm
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The main reason why Hillary lost is that like most liberals, she actually believed in the proposition that most Americans are fundamentally decent at the core. Lacking such a core, electorally vital portions of Americans population resents the fact the she reminds them about why they suck.
The main reason why trump won was, being the epitome of what Hillary got wrong and the possessing the idiot narcissistic cynicism that goes from skin to the marrow, he fits right in with that portion.
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RE: What is happening in USA?
March 5, 2018 at 12:51 pm
(March 5, 2018 at 12:13 pm)The Industrial Atheist Wrote: (March 4, 2018 at 2:02 pm)Tizheruk Wrote: American voters proved their morons for falling for a con man and denying reality .
I hate to resort to name calling, but he is a con man. A proven con man. A lot of people that voted for him voted for him based on how he made them feel.
He said heds stop outsourcing but he outsourced his own jobs. (He's currently working on putting provisions from TPP into his renegotiation of NAFTA)
He had literally no experience in leadership and was such a shitty businessman that he had to go to foreign banks to get loans. American banks wouldn't do it any more, because they know they probably won't get it back.
It seems like the voters must have been ignoring these types of things. Or they just weren't brought up enough.
Calling 45 a con man is not name calling, it is a factual observation. He has a long history of stiffing contractors, and admitted to not paying the full amount back to his "university" investors.
He also LIED to both Boeing and Carrier workers on top of that. Yes people voted for him because he played on their gullibility and fears.
But he is worse than a mundane con man, he uses political scapegoating and vilifies any dissent, even to the point of shitting on his own intel.
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RE: What is happening in USA?
March 5, 2018 at 2:12 pm
(March 5, 2018 at 11:23 am)Shell B Wrote: (March 4, 2018 at 12:41 pm)A Theist Wrote: The Dems put up a piss poor candidate and lost one of their largest voting bases to Trump. Their identity politics campaign didn't resonate with those voters in the Rust Belt and Coal States.
Yeah, don't even blame the fact that your party also put up a piss poor candidate. Yeah, but guess who's sitting in the White House? It ain't Hillary and it's no third party candidate, either. Doesn't say much for those piss poor candidates if they couldn't beat Trump, does it.
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RE: What is happening in USA?
March 5, 2018 at 2:56 pm
(March 5, 2018 at 12:51 pm)Brian37 Wrote: (March 5, 2018 at 12:13 pm)The Industrial Atheist Wrote: I hate to resort to name calling, but he is a con man. A proven con man. A lot of people that voted for him voted for him based on how he made them feel.
He said heds stop outsourcing but he outsourced his own jobs. (He's currently working on putting provisions from TPP into his renegotiation of NAFTA)
He had literally no experience in leadership and was such a shitty businessman that he had to go to foreign banks to get loans. American banks wouldn't do it any more, because they know they probably won't get it back.
It seems like the voters must have been ignoring these types of things. Or they just weren't brought up enough.
Calling 45 a con man is not name calling, it is a factual observation. He has a long history of stiffing contractors, and admitted to not paying the full amount back to his "university" investors.
He also LIED to both Boeing and Carrier workers on top of that. Yes people voted for him because he played on their gullibility and fears.
But he is worse than a mundane con man, he uses political scapegoating and vilifies any dissent, even to the point of shitting on his own intel.
Yeah he made a deal that they would get a shit ton of subsidies and tax breaks and would keep the jobs here juuuust long enough. But I just meant that when it comes to calling the voters morons, I don't mean to do that. I can sort of half understand their motivations. I just don't get why they thought he would follow through with anything.
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RE: What is happening in USA?
March 5, 2018 at 3:26 pm
(March 5, 2018 at 2:12 pm)A Theist Wrote: (March 5, 2018 at 11:23 am)Shell B Wrote: Yeah, don't even blame the fact that your party also put up a piss poor candidate. Yeah, but guess who's sitting in the White House? It ain't Hillary and it's no third party candidate, either. Doesn't say much for those piss poor candidates if they couldn't beat Trump, does it.
Sick that you value that jackass. He is dangerous and inept, nothing to be proud of.
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RE: What is happening in USA?
March 5, 2018 at 3:28 pm
(March 4, 2018 at 5:53 pm)Mermaid Wrote: (March 4, 2018 at 5:51 pm)Chad32 Wrote: Yes, a lot of people wanted her over Trump. That doesn't mean that everyone wanted her over Bernie, or that they voted for her because they think she's a good candidate. It's just that the other guy was Trump. Just because one shit pile smells worse than the others, doesn't mean they're not both shit.
I just have a really hard time believing that anyone who supported Sanders would turn around and actually vote for Donald Trump. That is completely idiotic.
You should see some people on my facebook page. The Hilary hate was strong in some.
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RE: What is happening in USA?
March 5, 2018 at 7:10 pm
(March 4, 2018 at 5:53 pm)Mermaid Wrote: (March 4, 2018 at 5:51 pm)Chad32 Wrote: Yes, a lot of people wanted her over Trump. That doesn't mean that everyone wanted her over Bernie, or that they voted for her because they think she's a good candidate. It's just that the other guy was Trump. Just because one shit pile smells worse than the others, doesn't mean they're not both shit.
I just have a really hard time believing that anyone who supported Sanders would turn around and actually vote for Donald Trump. That is completely idiotic.
I know more than one person that did. Their reasoning was that like Bernie, Trump wasn't an establishment candidate. Whether or not that is actually true is another thing entirely.
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RE: What is happening in USA?
March 5, 2018 at 7:16 pm
Quote:Yeah, but guess who's sitting in the White House? It ain't Hillary and it's no third party candidate, either. Doesn't say much for those piss poor candidates if they couldn't beat Trump, does it.
No it says far more about Americans bad electoral system .And terrible electorate.
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RE: What is happening in USA?
March 5, 2018 at 7:42 pm
(March 5, 2018 at 3:26 pm)Brian37 Wrote: (March 5, 2018 at 2:12 pm)A Theist Wrote: Yeah, but guess who's sitting in the White House? It ain't Hillary and it's no third party candidate, either. Doesn't say much for those piss poor candidates if they couldn't beat Trump, does it.
Sick that you value that jackass. He is dangerous and inept, nothing to be proud of. Same way a lot of other voters feel about those who voted for a jackass like crooked Hillary.
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