Disproving the christian (and muslim) god

[GrandizerII]

Wow, that was quite a stretch there at the end, Huggy.

And quoting the Bible to explain history. Seems like you want us to ignore what the historians of religion say, and just go with what you say?

[Aegon]

My argument is that the chrstian god (and also the muslim god) is a myth formed from older myths and is in no way original, it cannot be the truth, making the christian god not real.

Discuss ...

What do you base that conclusion on? What are the facts that you use to support this?

Look, I'm not saying that Noah and Gilgamesh are the same person, but I've never seen them in the same room at the same time.

[Huggy Bear]

Wow, that was quite a stretch there at the end, Huggy.

And quoting the Bible to explain history. Seems like you want us to ignore what the historians of religion say, and just go with what you say?

So far you've posted not one source that debunks anything I've said.

[Succubus]

If ever there was a badly timed thread it's this one. Huggy will use it is using it as a bolt hole to escape his nemesis, Odin.

[brewer]

OMG, the zodiac and a jewish/christian god. This is just to rich. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zodiac

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_views_on_astrology

[SteveII]

My argument is that the chrstian god (and also the muslim god) is a myth formed from older myths and is in no way original, it cannot be the truth, making the christian god not real.

Discuss ...

That's not an argument, that's an assertion.

[Minimalist]

Jesusism grew out of the more-or-less standard Mystery Cult philosophy which was prevalent in the Eastern Roman Empire in the first century.

http://www.earlychristianhistory.info/mystrel.html

Christianity, in its earliest days, shared a good deal in common with the many “mystery religions” which became popular in the Roman Empire. In fact, it’s hard not to place Christianity among the mystery religions (even though Christian apologists refuse to do this).

That's because those bullshit artists have to insist that they are "special."

The mystery religions all had different features; there was no uniformity among them. However, they had certain points in common. Among them are:

• Ritual meal on a regular basis
  
• Ritual bath, or baptism, as part of initiation
  
• A godman who died, or was assumed dead, but was restored
  
• A goddess in attendance (usually a mother but sometimes a consort)
  
• Miraculous or remarkable birth and death of the godman
  
• The godman ultimately ends up in heaven
  
• While living, the godman is ridiculed (by some, or by many)
  

There are more than this, but these suffice to make the point: The mystery religions had a good deal in common with each other, and with Christianity.

Richard Carrier does a much more thorough job of this discussion but this guy is a christard - albeit a particularly honest one - so I went with it.

[I_am_not_mafia]

My argument is that the chrstian god (and also the muslim god) is a myth formed from older myths and is in no way original, it cannot be the truth, making the christian god not real.

Discuss ...

That's not an argument, that's an assertion.

I copied and pasted Huggy's words and changed references to Odin to the christian god. But aside from the earlier religions mentioned elsewhere in this thread, you can't deny that Christianity and Islam evolved from Judaism.

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If ever there was a badly timed thread it's this one. Huggy will use it is using it as a bolt hole to escape his nemesis, Odin.

Yeah but Huggy was using the excuse for getting away with special pleading that the same logic applying to his god was another discussion. So here is the other discussion.

[RoadRunner79]

That's not an argument, that's an assertion.

... you can't deny that Christianity and Islam evolved from Judaism.

Did you think that it was a big secret, that both claim to have this same history?

[SteveII]

That's not an argument, that's an assertion.

I copied and pasted Huggy's words and changed references to Odin to the christian god. But aside from the earlier religions mentioned elsewhere in this thread, you can't deny that Christianity and Islam evolved from Judaism.

The fact that you think that is a point in your favor proves you don't have a clue what you are talking about. Of course they did! It is absolutely pivotal that they did.