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Disproving the christian (and muslim) god
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RE: Disproving the christian (and muslim) god
(March 7, 2018 at 2:20 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: So here we have the first and last books of the bible depicting the Virgin and the Lion.

The inset image is from the Temple of Esneh in Egypt. An image of s sphinx is placed between the signs for Leo (on the left) and Virgo (on the right, holding a branch).

This means that before there was ever a scripture written God symbolized his plan in the zodiac and the ancient peoples knew this, and are without excuse.

Could the divine story have been inspired by the shapes that people imagined in the stars? [Image: suytu_zpsigmkp105.gif]
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RE: Disproving the christian (and muslim) god
(March 7, 2018 at 3:50 pm)SteveII Wrote:
(March 7, 2018 at 12:22 pm)Mathilda Wrote: My argument is that the chrstian god (and also the muslim god) is a myth formed from older myths and is in no way original, it cannot be the truth, making the christian god not real.

Discuss ...
That's not an argument, that's an assertion.

Yes, now tell Huggy that.  You guys are failing to see the forest through the trees here.
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#23
RE: Disproving the christian (and muslim) god
(March 7, 2018 at 3:09 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:
(March 7, 2018 at 2:23 pm)Grandizer Wrote: Wow, that was quite a stretch there at the end, Huggy.

And quoting the Bible to explain history. Seems like you want us to ignore what the historians of religion say, and just go with what you say?

So far you've posted not one source that debunks anything I've said.

Every history of religion book I've read debunks your monotheism to polytheism bullshit.
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#24
RE: Disproving the christian (and muslim) god
It's pretty easy to show that any being in charge with the following characteristics is not a logical possibility:

A) Has no restrictions on its abilities
B) Has our best interests in mind and isn't sadistic

1) Suffering occurs.
2) The being can go about achieving any goals it might have, including looking after our best interests, any way it wants.
3) The being chooses the way things happen (or at least the things that can possibly happen).
4) The being chooses suffering to be involved, when it could achieve everything it wanted in other ways.
5) The being is the cause of unecessary suffering which serves no purpose.
6) The being is a sadist.

So a person making such a claim needs to drop either A or B. Funnily enough, people seem more eager to drop B. Many have openly said that they don't care if God is sadistic, they will still worship it.
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#25
RE: Disproving the christian (and muslim) god
(March 7, 2018 at 12:22 pm)Mathilda Wrote: My argument is that the chrstian god (and also the muslim god) is a myth formed from older myths and is in no way original, it cannot be the truth, making the christian god not real.

Discuss ...



(March 7, 2018 at 7:48 am)Huggy74 Wrote: That's another discussion, we're talking Odin.


Like I said, that's another discussion.
All gods are mythical fictional characters.
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#26
RE: Disproving the christian (and muslim) god
The Jewish god is very thankful towards Mathilda for only disproving the other two abahamic gods, lol.
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#27
RE: Disproving the christian (and muslim) god
Myths in pics

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teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Disproving the christian (and muslim) god
(March 10, 2018 at 4:43 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: Myths in pics

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You might want to fact-check some of your sources, Fake Messiah. Not all these deities had a resurrection according to their respective myths.

And common themes don't always imply plagiarism.
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RE: Disproving the christian (and muslim) god
(March 10, 2018 at 4:43 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: Myths in pics


I Love it when I get to 'quote mine' myself.

(March 7, 2018 at 6:29 am)Huggy74 Wrote: I will respond to this by stating that every single major mythology and even the doctrines of some Christian denominations evolved from ancient Babylonian pagan religion.
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RE: Disproving the christian (and muslim) god
(March 10, 2018 at 10:27 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:
(March 10, 2018 at 4:43 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: Myths in pics


I Love it when I get to 'quote mine' myself.

(March 7, 2018 at 6:29 am)Huggy74 Wrote: I will respond to this by stating that every single major mythology and even the doctrines of some Christian denominations evolved from ancient Babylonian pagan religion.

The Christian doctrine of the Resurrection is not a denomination-based doctrine, lol. Neither is the birth of Jesus of a virgin. You adhere to these doctrines, don't you? And yet, people are arguing that these doctrines evolved from prior pagan myths. And, despite my previous post, they're not necessarily 100% wrong. You get that this is what they're arguing about, right?
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