Farm animals

[Martian Mermaid]

This is one of the reasons I don't eat meat. I don't want to support this.

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Factory farming should be banned, and not just because it needlessly adds suffering to animals, and because it's also unsustainable.

I'm no vegetarian, but I realize there's no utility in adding suffering to the mix. Hell, I'd welcome lab-grown meat which would eliminate suffering altogether and make it heaps more sustainable.

Don't forget the positive impact on the environment. Over-production of meat is causing a lot of carbon. Bring on the lab-grown meat.

[Shell B]

Just to be balanced, crops have quite the carbon footprint too. Bring on the lab-grown vegetables.

[Aegon]

Just to be balanced, crops have quite the carbon footprint too. Bring on the lab-grown vegetables.

You know what has the biggest carbon footprint? Humans. Bring on the lab-grown people!

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For the record, I would like to be a vegetarian but cold cut sandwiches are so ridiculously easy to make to bring to work... what should I eat instead? It has to be something just as easy to make or my laziness will overrule any sort of moral principle.

[The Grand Nudger]

I read that as a joke......there's no possible way that a lab has a lower carbon footprint than a vegetable grown -in- the lab...and since ya don't need a lab to grow vegetables......nor is there any conceivable benefit to doing so.....

[Shell B]

I read that as a joke......there's no possible way that a lab has a lower carbon footprint than a vegetable grown -in- the lab...and since ya don't need a lab to grow vegetables......nor is there any conceivable benefit to doing so.....

Ya don't need a lab to grow meat either, goofball. Still, it was a joke. I definitely don't think we need to lab grow vegetables. I'm simply trying not to ignore the fact that vegetable farming also has a significant carbon footprint. If a person's reason for being a vegetarian is that, they're misguided.

[The Grand Nudger]

I thought so..but, you know, there's alot of weirdness on this issue so I figured I'd roll it out just in case. 

I toured a farm in s fl that had been converted from a blighted grove into a mixed veggie operation.  More than anything, they were all about the carbon footprint of the place.  They'd bought a couple of antique jennys - since most of their field work could be done with a spring harrow...and went entirely solar. I was massively impressed. 50 acres with an electric tractor takes....planning...

[Shell B]

I thought so..but, you know, there's alot of weirdness on this issue so I figured I'd roll it out just in case. 

I toured a farm in s fl that had been converted from a blighted grove into a mixed veggie operation.  More than anything, they were all about the carbon footprint of the place.  They'd bought a couple of antique jennys - since most of their field work could be done with a spring harrow...and went entirely solar.  I was massively impressed.  50 acres with an electric tractor takes....planning...

Too bad no one will ever care enough to go grand scheme with ideas like that.

[The Grand Nudger]

We might surprise you, there.  Systems like that are the fastest growing and most profitable sector of ag development in the us....and this, at a time when conventional operators are going out of business even faster than they're operators are dying.

It's getting even more eclectic than solar conversions of conventional farms (or crops). We have biofloc saltwater shrimp farms here in kentucky operating on solar with backup from shut in wells - and integreated aquas leveraging fortified distiller grains as a fish and plant food doing near year round production in gutter connected greenhouses.