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RE: East Asians don't integrate into Western culture
March 16, 2018 at 3:52 pm
I'm not racist against East Asians or anything. It's just that I immigrated from India primarily because I wanted to live in an English-speaking country and boom...I encounter quite a few people speaking Chinese.
I know people in Quebec speak French as well but who cares - I'm in Ontario. And I speak to other Indians in English, just fyi.
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RE: East Asians don't integrate into Western culture
March 16, 2018 at 3:54 pm
(March 16, 2018 at 3:52 pm)Alexmahone Wrote: I'm not racist against East Asians or anything. It's just that I immigrated from India primarily because I wanted to live in an English-speaking country and boom...I encounter quite a few people speaking Chinese.
I know people in Quebec speak French as well but who cares - I'm in Ontario. And I speak to other Indians in English, just fyi.
Do they speak Chinese to you? If not, why would it bother you?
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RE: East Asians don't integrate into Western culture
March 16, 2018 at 3:55 pm
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RE: East Asians don't integrate into Western culture
March 16, 2018 at 3:58 pm
I'd love to have a second language so that I could talk about people behind their back yet within ear shot.
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RE: East Asians don't integrate into Western culture
March 16, 2018 at 3:59 pm
(March 16, 2018 at 3:52 pm)Alexmahone Wrote: I'm not racist against East Asians or anything. It's just that I immigrated from India primarily because I wanted to live in an English-speaking country and boom...I encounter quite a few people speaking Chinese.
I know people in Quebec speak French as well but who cares - I'm in Ontario. And I speak to other Indians in English, just fyi.
Bolded mine. Would you care if you lived in Quebec? Who gives a shit what language you speak. If they're not hurting anyone then what's the problem?
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RE: East Asians don't integrate into Western culture
March 16, 2018 at 4:00 pm
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Ah...so, a first gen migrant? Your insistence on speaking the language of the place is more understandable in that context. You have to integrate, it's a compelling goal for you. A second gen is integrated by fiat of birth and might have more difficulty finding ways to express and retain their cultural heritage than in being sufficiently integrated. For them...having the opportunity to speak a language they only knew from their parents with someone other than their parents is compelling.
Mostly though, that's just diaspora, isn't it...people cling to the little bits of some home? "Western culture" contains this as well..ofc..so it;s not like they;re doing anything differently, theres just a different focus of nostalgia. Why -would- an east asian immigrant daydream about shamrocks and vikings..anyway, right? Why wouldn't they speak their language the same way I speak my dialect?
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RE: East Asians don't integrate into Western culture
March 16, 2018 at 4:36 pm
(March 16, 2018 at 4:00 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Why wouldn't they speak their language the same way I speak my dialect?
I'm just surprised "their language" isn't English. Since English is my first language despite being born and raised in India, I find it quite surprising that someone born and raised in Canada wouldn't speak English as their first language.
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RE: East Asians don't integrate into Western culture
March 16, 2018 at 4:39 pm
(March 16, 2018 at 3:52 pm)Alexmahone Wrote: I'm not racist against East Asians or anything. It's just that I immigrated from India primarily because I wanted to live in an English-speaking country and boom...I encounter quite a few people speaking Chinese.
I know people in Quebec speak French as well but who cares - I'm in Ontario. And I speak to other Indians in English, just fyi. Oh, you're Indian? Have you abandoned your cultural background -or- do you eat Indian food, socialize with other Indians, go to Indian cultural celebrations, speak your native language to family members, heck, ever watched a Bollywood movie?
I reckon you've done most of the latter, yet you can't abide accidentally hearing "East Asians" speaking to each other privately in a non-English language.
This says more about you than the East Asians.
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RE: East Asians don't integrate into Western culture
March 16, 2018 at 4:41 pm
(March 16, 2018 at 3:54 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: (March 16, 2018 at 3:52 pm)Alexmahone Wrote: I'm not racist against East Asians or anything. It's just that I immigrated from India primarily because I wanted to live in an English-speaking country and boom...I encounter quite a few people speaking Chinese.
I know people in Quebec speak French as well but who cares - I'm in Ontario. And I speak to other Indians in English, just fyi.
Do they speak Chinese to you? If not, why would it bother you?
Good question. I come from a country (India) with more than a dozen languages due to which I cannot communicate with over 80 percent of the population. I'll just say that I feel alienated when I overhear people speaking a foreign language.
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RE: East Asians don't integrate into Western culture
March 16, 2018 at 4:42 pm
Tres Leches Wrote:Alexmahone Wrote:I'm not racist against East Asians or anything. It's just that I immigrated from India primarily because I wanted to live in an English-speaking country and boom...I encounter quite a few people speaking Chinese.
I know people in Quebec speak French as well but who cares - I'm in Ontario. And I speak to other Indians in English, just fyi. Oh, you're Indian? Have you abandoned your cultural background -or- do you eat Indian food, socialize with other Indians, go to Indian cultural celebrations, speak your native language to family members, heck, ever watched a Bollywood movie?
I reckon you've done most of the latter, yet you can't abide accidentally hearing "East Asians" speaking to each other privately in a non-English language.
This says more about you than the East Asians.
-Teresa
His native language is English, so there's that.
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