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East Asians don't integrate into Western culture
#21
RE: East Asians don't integrate into Western culture
(March 16, 2018 at 4:39 pm)Tres Leches Wrote:
(March 16, 2018 at 3:52 pm)Alexmahone Wrote: I'm not racist against East Asians or anything. It's just that I immigrated from India primarily because I wanted to live in an English-speaking country and boom...I encounter quite a few people speaking Chinese.

I know people in Quebec speak French as well but who cares - I'm in Ontario. And I speak to other Indians in English, just fyi.
Oh, you're Indian? Have you abandoned your cultural background -or- do you eat Indian food, socialize with other Indians, go to Indian cultural celebrations, speak your native language to family members, heck, ever watched a Bollywood movie? 

I reckon you've done most of the latter, yet you can't abide accidentally hearing "East Asians" speaking to each other privately in a non-English language.

This says more about you than the East Asians.

-Teresa

You really think I'd travel half way across the world to socialize with other Indians and watch Bollywood movies, don'tcha? Wink
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#22
RE: East Asians don't integrate into Western culture
For most second gens, though, english will have been their first language, that they speak chinese to other chinese speakers (for example) isn't an issue of what language their first language is.

When do you speak in any other language you know? I know that I break out the redneckistani when I'm with other necks..and people in the middle of boston are suprised to hear that it -is- english.
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#23
RE: East Asians don't integrate into Western culture
Eh it's their preference I don't care I can't understand why you care but if it's just a casual observation I'd suggest to like not generalize and stuff. Also try to get to know people before you judge them. K bye.
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#24
RE: East Asians don't integrate into Western culture
(March 16, 2018 at 4:46 pm)Alexmahone Wrote:
(March 16, 2018 at 4:39 pm)Tres Leches Wrote: Oh, you're Indian? Have you abandoned your cultural background -or- do you eat Indian food, socialize with other Indians, go to Indian cultural celebrations, speak your native language to family members, heck, ever watched a Bollywood movie? 

I reckon you've done most of the latter, yet you can't abide accidentally hearing "East Asians" speaking to each other privately in a non-English language.

This says more about you than the East Asians.

-Teresa

You really think I'd travel half way across the world to socialize with other Indians and watch Bollywood movies, don'tcha? Wink

Ah yes, great deflection. Answering a question with a question.
So then perhaps you moved halfway across the world to pass judgment on other foreigners / immigrants. 

Going from hearing strangers speaking a non-English language to assuming they "don't integrate into Western culture" is a huge and presumptive leap.

-Teresa
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#25
RE: East Asians don't integrate into Western culture
(March 16, 2018 at 2:06 pm)Alexmahone Wrote: I live in Canada and whenever I see two East Asians (usually students at my university), they're often speaking to each other in a foreign language. Has anyone observed this phenomenon in other Western countries as well? These East Asians were probably born in the West, so why do they have difficulty integrating into Western culture?

What a fucking retarded opening post.

(March 16, 2018 at 2:23 pm)Crossless2.0 Wrote: I've met my fair share of "east Asians" not born in the U.S. and haven't encountered one who couldn't speak English. Care to guess how many native-born Americans or Canadians I've met who can speak Korean or Japanese or Mandarin?

The fact that these are university students the OP is yammering about should have been the first clue that they are reasonably well integrated, regardless of where they were born. Perhaps OP needs to broaden his horizons.

I was good friends in uni with a Chinese woman who had come over to Ireland for postgrad. Her English was good, and while it wasn't gramatical (how I got to know her was by being asked to edit a few essays for grammar), my word was it poetic.
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#26
RE: East Asians don't integrate into Western culture
(March 16, 2018 at 4:47 pm)Khemikal Wrote: For most second gens, though, english will have been their first language, that they speak chinese to other chinese speakers (for example) isn't an issue of what language their first language is.

When do you speak in any other language you know?  I know that I break out the redneckistani when I'm with other necks..and people in the middle of boston are suprised to hear that it -is- english.

I know a little Malayalam which I used to speak with my mother, but only because she  isn't comfortable with English.
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#27
RE: East Asians don't integrate into Western culture
If you reached out, you'd probably find an opportunity to learn alot of malayalam, right?  How many other speakers do you know - other than your mother..think peers in your age group?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#28
RE: East Asians don't integrate into Western culture
This is Canada were one of the most diverse places on the planet . Plenty of room for everyone's language.
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

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#29
RE: East Asians don't integrate into Western culture
(March 16, 2018 at 4:36 pm)Alexmahone Wrote:
(March 16, 2018 at 4:00 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Why wouldn't they speak their language the same way I speak my dialect?

I'm just surprised "their language" isn't English. Since English is my first language despite being born and raised in India, I find it quite surprising that someone born and raised in Canada wouldn't speak English as their first language.

But - again - you don't KNOW that these people were  'born and raised in Canada', and you don't know that their first language isn't English.  Simply because they're speaking Chinese in public tells you nothing about their first language, their place of origin, or anything apart from the fact they are able to speak Chinese.

I was born and raised in Northern Ireland.  My first language is English (I didn't learn Irish until my mid teens), but I sometimes speak Irish in public to other Irish speakers.  I hardly think of myself as 'unassimilated'.


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#30
RE: East Asians don't integrate into Western culture
Somebody's babel fish isn't working . . . .
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