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OK, Christians! I have my KJV!
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Yes, Jesus was likely a historical figure. That's all that the references from Josephus, Tacitus, Pliny, etc., show. Still, as others have pointed out, if Jesus was as popular as he is portrayed in the Gospels, there should have been a helluva lot more references to his life from secular sources of his own day.
But, instead, nothing but silence.  RE: OK, Christians! I have my KJV!
March 30, 2018 at 1:40 pm
(This post was last modified: March 30, 2018 at 1:40 pm by Succubus.)
Quote:...Or He simply witnessed what He recorded... Are you referring to this? Quote:...If the Tacitus reference is genuine, and there is considerable doubt that it is, then you have two options. He was either referring to what Christians were saying or he had access to Roman records... Are you suggesting Tacitus wrote Annals when he was ten years old? As for the rest; I really can't be fucked on.
It's amazing 'science' always seems to 'find' whatever it is funded for, and never the oppsite. Drich.
I am convinced that the reference from Tacitus is authentic, but it was such a minor reference, almost in passing. Clearly, Tactius, an educated Roman senator, was unimpressed with the claims of the new Christian religions.
I am convinced that most atheists have an unfounded belief in abiogenesis. They expect theists to prove ID to be true yet they can't prove happenstance is true. It is kind of a double standard.
RE: OK, Christians! I have my KJV!
March 30, 2018 at 4:39 pm
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Obvious troll is obvious.
(March 30, 2018 at 2:08 pm)Jehanne Wrote: I am convinced that the reference from Tacitus is authentic, but it was such a minor reference, almost in passing. Clearly, Tactius, an educated Roman senator, was unimpressed with the claims of the new Christian religions. Well let's suppose it is indeed from his hand, that doesn't really tell us much. Tacitus wasn't born until AD 57 so anything he had to say is hearsay. Having said that we do have proof positive that Annals was altered centuries later in a Christian monastery, there are also a slew of other highly questionable things regarding that passage. As the adage goes, find one lie; suspect a thousand more.
It's amazing 'science' always seems to 'find' whatever it is funded for, and never the oppsite. Drich.
(March 30, 2018 at 3:57 pm)He lives Wrote: I am convinced that most atheists have an unfounded belief in abiogenesis. They expect theists to prove ID to be true yet they can't prove happenstance is true. It is kind of a double standard. Happenstance explains why little children sometimes get cancer. 
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March 30, 2018 at 6:19 pm
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March 30, 2018 at 6:37 pm
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