who created christianity

[Minimalist]

you would find that in fact there were christians before 1000 BC,

Um.....evidence?

[Darwinian]

you would find that in fact there were christians before 1000 BC

Don't be so daft!!

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[Anomalocaris]

There were christians even before the Hebrews created Yahweh.

[16three-john]

Um.....evidence?

this MIGHT help: http://www.christiananswers.net/q-abr/abr-a009.html
and this: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1...ament.html
this is, however, assuming that by the fact that the Old Testament has only been verified, and not disproved, by archaeology, history, and geography, that what it says can be taken as fact.

[Minimalist]

Well, Yahweh was just another Canaanite god before he got his big promotion in Jerusalem.

http://jot.sagepub.com/content/33/4/387.short


Probably humped the boss' daughter or something otherwise he'd have just been some shlep working in the mail room.

[Anomalocaris]

this MIGHT help: http://www.christiananswers.net/q-abr/abr-a009.html

That's NOT help. It's insulting presupposition of our credulity.

[16three-john]

That's NOT help. It's insulting presupposition of our credulity.[/align]

can you please explain what that means? i dont understand those words o.O haha

[DeistPaladin]

Well, Yahweh was just another Canaanite god before he got his big promotion in Jerusalem.

http://jot.sagepub.com/content/33/4/387.short

Probably humped the boss' daughter or something otherwise he'd have just been some shlep working in the mail room.

I've sometimes thought that Yahweh's ascension was a true rags-to-riches success story. He started off with such insignificance, being just one god in a pantheon belonging to an obscure tribe of routinely conquered people, only to pass up much more famous deities like Zeus, Odin and Ra (who also had much cooler names) to become the sole owner of the of the world's largest religion franchises.

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That's NOT help. It's insulting presupposition of our credulity.[/align]

can you please explain what that means? i dont understand those words o.O haha

He's saying you must think we're really stupid that we'll believe anything that was posted on a Christian propaganda site.

[16three-john]

That's NOT help. It's insulting presupposition of our credulity.[/align]

can you please explain what that means? i dont understand those words o.O haha

He's saying you must think we're really stupid that we'll believe anything that was posted on a Christian propaganda site.
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ah, i thought that might be how it'd be received...it's just that on that site, there is verifiable and true evidence for what I am talking about, I figured that a fact would be accepted as a fact no matter what source it comes from. also, it's insulting to use the word 'propaganda' for something that is purely just evidence for something that some people believe in. Especially when that 'something' is God and the bible, the basis on which I live my life

[lilyannerose]

I don't think it's so much as who created christianity as much as it was about who was the last sect standing with the most money to peddle for influence way back with Constantine. In the blood thirst following the Council of Nicea wherein bold soldiers and men of the loving god rode and marched forward and put to blade and fire other christian sects and their literature anything said at this time is idle speculation. What a set up for the early church world conquest and domination just handed over to the ambitious, crafty and greedy. The major sects that had to be put down were the gnostics and fringe gnostic cults.

The discovery of The Gnostic Nag Hammadi Codices was awesome in that it presents a different story of a, not born of a virgin, teacher and it's definitely a different construct of who Jesus was and reflected that Jesus taught reincarnation. So once again you have unoriginal material being presented based on Eastern thought, but one which differs considerably with the gospels. If one can assume that there was a movement that revolved around a philosopher leader I get the impression that they would be classified more as the Bohemians, Beats or Hippies of their time. This is exactly what the early church had to put down. As The Nag Hammadi's presentation of the teachings of Jesus were inclusive of the dangerous teachings of reincarnation you had to manipulate the hope of reincarnation and instead offer a punish or reward system for the afterlife to exert control over the common people as well as your nobility and monarchy.