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RE: Pope says in interview that there is no hell.
March 29, 2018 at 8:09 pm
(March 29, 2018 at 7:57 pm)chimp3 Wrote: (March 29, 2018 at 1:39 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I'd be skeptical of this report. The man who conducted this private interview (which wasn't recorded and there is no transcript of) has made false claims in the past regarding Pope Francis' words, and admitted to it. I highly doubt the Pope said Hell doesn't exist lol. Especially considering he referenced Hell when saying Mafia members run that risk if they don't change their ways. CL, did you previously write that everyone goes to heaven?
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RE: Pope says in interview that there is no hell.
March 29, 2018 at 8:41 pm
Nah, I'm very skeptical about this. It's possible, but not plausible. Almost like the Resurrection is possibly possible, but definitely not plausible.
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RE: Pope says in interview that there is no hell.
March 29, 2018 at 9:09 pm
(March 29, 2018 at 7:57 pm)chimp3 Wrote: (March 29, 2018 at 1:39 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I'd be skeptical of this report. The man who conducted this private interview (which wasn't recorded and there is no transcript of) has made false claims in the past regarding Pope Francis' words, and admitted to it. I highly doubt the Pope said Hell doesn't exist lol. Especially considering he referenced Hell when saying Mafia members run that risk if they don't change their ways. CL, did you previously write that everyone goes to heaven? I looked it up and clarified. You said everyone gets to meet god after they die and has a final chance to choose between good and evil.
Would an atheist be forgiven for thinking they were experiencing a hallucinogenic NDE at that moment? Like, "Oh come on! I have been lately arguing with Little Rik so much, now this?" Then straight to hell?
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RE: Pope says in interview that there is no hell.
March 29, 2018 at 9:19 pm
What about the infants that can't make the choice? Do they just get a freebie?
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RE: Pope says in interview that there is no hell.
March 29, 2018 at 9:25 pm
(March 29, 2018 at 9:09 pm)chimp3 Wrote: (March 29, 2018 at 7:57 pm)chimp3 Wrote: CL, did you previously write that everyone goes to heaven? I looked it up and clarified. You said everyone gets to meet god after they die and has a final chance to choose between good and evil.
Would an atheist be forgiven for thinking they were experiencing a hallucinogenic NDE at that moment? Like, "Oh come on! I have been lately arguing with Little Rik so much, now this?" Then straight to hell?
About the "meeting God" thing, that is a guess of mine, but I would never say that as some sort of claim. It seems to be what would make the most sense, based on my understanding of certain things, but I could be completely wrong on that. And I'd rather no one take my word on it.
As for your question, I have no idea. All I can say I feel confident about, is that Hell is the free decision to turn away from God. What exactly that entails can only be speculation.
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RE: Pope says in interview that there is no hell.
March 29, 2018 at 9:25 pm
(March 29, 2018 at 9:19 pm)rskovride Wrote: What about the infants that can't make the choice? Do they just get a freebie?
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RE: Pope says in interview that there is no hell.
March 29, 2018 at 9:29 pm
(March 29, 2018 at 9:25 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: (March 29, 2018 at 9:09 pm)chimp3 Wrote: I looked it up and clarified. You said everyone gets to meet god after they die and has a final chance to choose between good and evil.
Would an atheist be forgiven for thinking they were experiencing a hallucinogenic NDE at that moment? Like, "Oh come on! I have been lately arguing with Little Rik so much, now this?" Then straight to hell?
About the "meeting God" thing, that is a guess of mine, but I would never say that as some sort of claim. It seems to be what would make the most sense, based on my understanding of certain things, but I could be completely wrong on that. And I'd rather no one take my word on it.
As for your question, I have no idea. All I can say I feel confident about, is that Hell is the free decision to turn away from God. What exactly that entails can only be speculation. You have also stated that God sees our lives simultaneously past, present, and future. That would mean he knows what we would choose during this final interview. So, why bother!
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RE: Pope says in interview that there is no hell.
March 29, 2018 at 9:31 pm
(March 29, 2018 at 9:29 pm)chimp3 Wrote: (March 29, 2018 at 9:25 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: About the "meeting God" thing, that is a guess of mine, but I would never say that as some sort of claim. It seems to be what would make the most sense, based on my understanding of certain things, but I could be completely wrong on that. And I'd rather no one take my word on it.
As for your question, I have no idea. All I can say I feel confident about, is that Hell is the free decision to turn away from God. What exactly that entails can only be speculation. You have also stated that God sees our lives simultaneously past, present, and future. That would mean he knows what we would choose during this final interview. So, why bother!
Yes. Why bother what?
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RE: Pope says in interview that there is no hell.
March 29, 2018 at 9:32 pm
(March 29, 2018 at 9:31 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: (March 29, 2018 at 9:29 pm)chimp3 Wrote: You have also stated that God sees our lives simultaneously past, present, and future. That would mean he knows what we would choose during this final interview. So, why bother!
Yes. Why bother what?
Why bother staging a final choice scenario if he already knows what choice you will make?
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RE: Pope says in interview that there is no hell.
March 29, 2018 at 9:44 pm
Anyone cursed unto the 10th generation wouldn't even be asked.
Straight to HELL !!
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