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Pope says in interview that there is no hell.
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RE: Pope says in interview that there is no hell.
March 29, 2018 at 9:45 pm
Quote: Hell is the free decision to turn away from God.
Being asked to believe the unbelievable is not a free choice
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RE: Pope says in interview that there is no hell.
March 29, 2018 at 9:47 pm
(March 29, 2018 at 9:32 pm)chimp3 Wrote:
(March 29, 2018 at 9:31 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Yes. Why bother what?

Why bother staging a final choice scenario if he already knows what choice you will make?

That's a good point. Maybe there is no "final scenario" because He already knows our hearts. I can see that as well.

Ultimately though, I dont expect to know for sure what it'll be like until I'm there personally. It's fun to guess/speculate though.
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RE: Pope says in interview that there is no hell.
March 29, 2018 at 9:57 pm
(March 29, 2018 at 9:47 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:
(March 29, 2018 at 9:32 pm)chimp3 Wrote: Why bother staging a final choice scenario if he already knows what choice you will make?

That's a good point. Maybe there is no "final scenario" because He already knows our hearts. I can see that as well.

Ultimately though, I dont expect to know for sure what it'll be like until I'm there personally. It's fun to guess/speculate though.

You are a nice person. So you imagine a nice god! Seems to be a pattern.
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RE: Pope says in interview that there is no hell.
March 29, 2018 at 9:59 pm
(March 29, 2018 at 9:19 pm)rskovride Wrote: What about the infants that can't make the choice? Do they just get a freebie?


Some of them are clearly fucked:

Jeremiah 32 (KJV)
18 Thou shewest lovingkindness unto thousands, and recompensest the iniquity of the fathers into the bosom of their children after them: the Great, the Mighty God, the Lord of hosts, is his name,
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RE: Pope says in interview that there is no hell.
March 30, 2018 at 4:48 am
So, did he say it or not? I was just about to boil a baby goat in its mother's milk, but I need guarantees.
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RE: Pope says in interview that there is no hell.
March 30, 2018 at 5:21 pm
(March 29, 2018 at 1:39 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I'd be skeptical of this report. The man who conducted this private interview (which wasn't recorded and there is no transcript of) has made false claims in the past regarding Pope Francis' words, and admitted to it. I highly doubt the Pope said Hell doesn't exist lol. Especially considering he referenced Hell when saying Mafia members run that risk if they don't change their ways.

But say he decided to make it an official announcement, How would you react?
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RE: Pope says in interview that there is no hell.
April 11, 2018 at 4:52 am
Come on Pope would never say that because he would lose many customers who would then go to churches that preach Hell. Keep in mind that the biggest pleasure for Christians is thinking who is going to Hell and who is not. They like to gather in their hideouts with bags of hard candy and fantasize about individuals who are going to Hell while they're be spared in heaven and watching them suffer below.



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#48
RE: Pope says in interview that there is no hell.
April 14, 2018 at 7:23 am
Oh, wait, news flash!  Francis has changed his mind (again):

http://catholicism.org/pope-francis-has-...-hell.html

Talking out of both ends (and, which is which??)
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#49
RE: Pope says in interview that there is no hell.
April 15, 2018 at 4:36 pm
The Vaticans response sounds like total BS, denying that an interview even took place. I'm not surprised at all to find out that the Pope may have said there is no hell. He's always saying similar things, like atheists can be redeemed by doing good, or "who am I to judge the gays?" Maybe the Pope said it to try to make everyone happy. Those who are against the idea of hell will like him more, and he has plausible deniability for those who want to believe that the Pope still believes in hell. Maybe that's why he chose to say it in an interview that was not being recorded.
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#50
RE: Pope says in interview that there is no hell.
April 15, 2018 at 4:51 pm
Who cares about heaven or hell? I already live in both, and dying will end it. Hopefully in a lot of time.

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