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RE: Explain this, theists
April 16, 2018 at 11:56 pm
(April 16, 2018 at 11:23 pm)Godscreated Wrote: (April 16, 2018 at 4:11 am)The Valkyrie Wrote: Ah, "free will".
The excuse of the ages.
Next time I get pulled up by a cop for speeding, I'm going to tell him he's violating my free will!
There are laws to help prevent people from taking advantage of their free will, that is the answer you will get from the police.
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Ho, where's your "god", now, when you have to rely on a threat of law enforcement to provide the rein on free will? I'm really sorry for you and the strange dark ways that religion have twisted you mind, I really am.
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RE: Explain this, theists
April 17, 2018 at 1:06 am
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God wouldn't even need to kill Satan, he could just remove his powers.
Allowing a being as powerful as Satan to try and trick people away from God (or whatever he is supposed to do) is rather unfair, isn't it? God expects mere mortals to see through and fight this magical being? It's clearly tricking millions of people into the wrong religion for starters, and who exactly can blame them, when God just sits back and does nothing.
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RE: Explain this, theists
April 17, 2018 at 2:24 am
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(April 16, 2018 at 11:56 pm)Fireball Wrote: (April 16, 2018 at 11:23 pm)Godscreated Wrote: There are laws to help prevent people from taking advantage of their free will, that is the answer you will get from the police.
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Ho, where's your "god", now, when you have to rely on a threat of law enforcement to provide the rein on free will? I'm really sorry for you and the strange dark ways that religion have twisted you mind, I really am.
The reply was to a policeman stopping someone, the answer was appropriate. God's still here and His ways are of light and you might be the one who should be sorry for you seeing how god is ever vigilant.
GC
(April 17, 2018 at 1:06 am)robvalue Wrote: God wouldn't even need to kill Satan, he could just remove his powers.
Allowing a being as powerful as Satan to try and trick people away from God (or whatever he is supposed to do) is rather unfair, isn't it? God expects mere mortals to see through and fight this magical being? It's clearly tricking millions of people into the wrong religion for starters, and who exactly can blame them, when God just sits back and does nothing.
God the Son came and died so you wouldn't be tricked and it's ashame that you have been so far, you have the power of the God who you say can take away Satan's power and he will for you, if you will except Jesus for who He is.
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(April 16, 2018 at 12:42 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Why should we regard the ending as any more reliable than any of the other bullshit prophecies?
![[Image: 0hkI7os.jpg]](https://i.imgur.com/0hkI7os.jpg)
The Tyre God spoke of is the rubble in the foreground of this pic you posted and not only that but the king of Tyre is a symbol of Satan and God says he will be destroyed.
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God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Explain this, theists
April 17, 2018 at 7:51 am
(April 17, 2018 at 1:06 am)robvalue Wrote: God wouldn't even need to kill Satan, he could just remove his powers.
Allowing a being as powerful as Satan to try and trick people away from God (or whatever he is supposed to do) is rather unfair, isn't it? God expects mere mortals to see through and fight this magical being? It's clearly tricking millions of people into the wrong religion for starters, and who exactly can blame them, when God just sits back and does nothing.
In the Bible, you actually don't' see a lot of "magical powers" from Satan. I think you may be arguing more the stuff of cartoons, rather than the scriptures.
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RE: Explain this, theists
April 17, 2018 at 11:21 am
(April 15, 2018 at 7:13 pm)Lutrinae Wrote: God has no problem killing millions of people, but he can't kill Satan?
What gives?
What is death moron?
It is to cease to function in this life.
What is the second death/being thrown into Hell for eternity. There those who sin against God will be destroyed by Hell fire. This includes satan.
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RE: Explain this, theists
April 17, 2018 at 11:25 am
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(April 17, 2018 at 11:21 am)Drich Wrote: What is death moron?
It is to cease to function in this life.
What is the second death/being thrown into Hell for eternity. There those who sin against God will be destroyed by Hell fire. This includes satan.
I don't know what a "death moron" is. Is it some kind of new Japanese anime?
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RE: Explain this, theists
April 17, 2018 at 5:08 pm
Satan is not the evil character in the bible. The god is. Thankfully, neither are real.
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RE: Explain this, theists
April 18, 2018 at 3:51 pm
(April 17, 2018 at 5:08 pm)Antares Wrote: Satan is not the evil character in the bible. The god is. Thankfully, neither are real.
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It's amazing 'science' always seems to 'find' whatever it is funded for, and never the oppsite. Drich.
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RE: Explain this, theists
April 18, 2018 at 6:27 pm
Quote:The Tyre God spoke of is the rubble in the foreground of this pic you posted and not only that but the king of Tyre is a symbol of Satan and God says he will be destroyed.
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Sorry, asshole. Your silly bible says:
Quote: 19For thus says the Lord GOD, “When I make you a desolate city, like the cities which are not inhabited, when I bring up the deep over you and the great waters cover you, 20then I will bring you down with those who go down to the pit, to the people of old, and I will make you dwell in the lower parts of the earth, like the ancient waste places, with those who go down to the pit, so that you will not be inhabited; but I will set glory in the land of the living. 21“I will bring terrors on you and you will be no more; though you will be sought, you will never be found again,” declares the Lord GOD.
I can still see it. So much for your fucking god. What a loser.
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RE: Explain this, theists
April 18, 2018 at 11:02 pm
So far, no real explanation.
Just apologetics, per usual.
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