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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 4, 2018 at 3:04 pm
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(May 4, 2018 at 2:58 pm)Khemikal Wrote: (May 4, 2018 at 2:55 pm)CDF47 Wrote: Atheist claim there was nothing which created everything. It's all random or it's designed. Simple as that. Both of those statements are simple......and they're also simply false.
Would you like to know more?
I am already familiar with the undirected processes of natural selection acting on random mutations. The processes are either blind and dumb or intelligent. I believe they are intelligent.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 4, 2018 at 3:06 pm
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(May 4, 2018 at 3:04 pm)CDF47 Wrote: (May 4, 2018 at 2:58 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Both of those statements are simple......and they're also simply false.
Would you like to know more?
I am already familiar with the undirected processes of natural selection. The processes are either blind and dumb or intelligent. I believe they are intelligent.
Your beliefs are likely in contradiction with biological facts*...but, first, would you like to know why both of the statements I responded too are as wrong as they could possibly be, or not?
*I'm sure we could arrive at a mutually amenable value for "intelligent" in the context of evolutionary processes by reference to facts rather than the articles of your faith...but this wouldn't describe your god, so I fail to see the point. Evolution is, for example, intelligent.... when I'm breeding plants. Is that the sort of relationship you expect your god has with us? One giant human plantation?
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 4, 2018 at 3:07 pm
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 4, 2018 at 3:08 pm
(May 4, 2018 at 3:02 pm)CDF47 Wrote: (May 4, 2018 at 2:52 pm)Joods Wrote: You still didn't answer my second question. What evidence do you have to prove that your religion is right and all others are wrong? Saying you are a fallible human doesn't provide proof. It just tells me your opinion of yourself.
Ahh yes. The very same study that was listed in another thread on here. Convenient.
Based on the creation story versus other religions. Being the only religion that says we cannot save ourselves, the Son of God had to do it. Based on the historical and Biblical Jesus. Based on my faith in the Lord Jesus. I follow and believe in the Holy Scriptures.
The creation "story" is not provable evidence.
Saying the "son of god had to do it" is not provable evidence.
Prove there is a historical or a biblical Jesus.
Your faith is not proof of anything other than your opinion and last I checked, opinions are NOT facts.
Since you follow and believe in the "Holy Scriptures", please answer the following:
Have you ever eaten a cheeseburger?
If you are married, does your wife currently have short hair?
How many times have you ever been married or divorced?
Have you ever worn a bathing suit or a jogging suit?
Are you okay with your god being the first to commit genocide?
We'll start there.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 4, 2018 at 3:15 pm
(May 4, 2018 at 2:55 pm)CDF47 Wrote: Atheist claim there was nothing which created everything. Nope. Atheism has nothing to do with the origin of the universe.
(May 4, 2018 at 2:55 pm)CDF47 Wrote: It's all random... Nope.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 4, 2018 at 3:19 pm
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 4, 2018 at 3:21 pm
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Exactly. Nor is atheism any comment on something coming from nothing in a biological context. Evolutionary biology is a description of what -happens- to existent life. Some of those processes are randomized (none are truly random) some are not. Some of those processes are intelligent, most are not.
In point of fact, religious nitwits are the people who say those things™...both as misunderstandings of atheism and evolutionary theory...and as the articles of their faiths.
All "atheists say" is that they don;t believe in your god....you';re the one foisting psuedoscience onto the poor fucker. I can;t imagine how that;s going to help the case for his existence. How do you think it might do that CDF?
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 4, 2018 at 3:30 pm
CDF47 Wrote:Yeah, this X in question is the most highly complex and specific in the known universe.
Yes, that's another way this X is different from all the other 'X's' you're analogizing it with.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 4, 2018 at 3:33 pm
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-and yet not different at all in the context of whether or not he believes a god is required for the existence of either.
It;s a deliciously tight knot. How complexity, specifically.... indicates a god when the smart and the dumb info both need gods is another mystery of god, I reckon.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
May 4, 2018 at 3:34 pm
(May 4, 2018 at 3:06 pm)Khemikal Wrote: (May 4, 2018 at 3:04 pm)CDF47 Wrote: I am already familiar with the undirected processes of natural selection. The processes are either blind and dumb or intelligent. I believe they are intelligent.
Your beliefs are likely in contradiction with biological facts*...but, first, would you like to know why both of the statements I responded too are as wrong as they could possibly be, or not?
*I'm sure we could arrive at a mutually amenable value for "intelligent" in the context of evolutionary processes by reference to facts rather than the articles of your faith...but this wouldn't describe your god, so I fail to see the point. Evolution is, for example, intelligent.... when I'm breeding plants. Is that the sort of relationship you expect your god has with us? One giant human plantation?
No, I believe in the God of the Bible that wants relationship with us.
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