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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
October 26, 2018 at 7:20 am
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(October 26, 2018 at 4:41 am)Wololo Wrote: (October 25, 2018 at 7:25 pm)CDF47 Wrote: Hey Khemikal. How have you been? Its been a while.
Yes, I believe animals possess souls. I think the Bible is clear that there are animals in heaven and I believe animals will all be saved based on verses in the Bible.
Chapter and verse please. Because pretty much every christian denomination say animals don't have souls, citing bible as their evidence.
One of tye fundamental "rwasons" why humans aren't animals per the bible is the alleged possession of a soul, supposedly our "image of god".
(October 25, 2018 at 11:54 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Let’s get to 1,000 pages guys! Come on, CDF. Surely you have 500 more pages of BS (and clearly all the time in the world), left in you, no? 😏
For me he has 861.
Isaiah 65:23-25 They won’t toil in vain nor bear children doomed to misfortune, for they will be offspring blessed by the Lord, they and their descendants with them. Before they call, I will answer, while they are still speaking, I’ll hear. “The wolf and the lamb will feed together, and the lion will eat straw like the ox; but as for the serpent— its food will be dust! They won’t harm or destroy on my entire holy mountain.”
Isaiah 11:5-9 He will wear righteousness like a belt and truth like an undergarment. In that day the wolf and the lamb will live together; the leopard will lie down with the baby goat. The calf and the yearling will be safe with the lion, and a little child will lead them all. The cow will graze near the bear. The cub and the calf will lie down together. The lion will eat hay like a cow. The baby will play safely near the hole of a cobra. Yes, a little child will put its hand in a nest of deadly snakes without harm. Nothing will hurt or destroy in all my holy mountain, for as the waters fill the sea, so the earth will be filled with people who know the Lord.
Hosea 2:18: " And I will make for them a covenant on that day with the beasts of the field, the birds of the heavens, and the creeping things of the ground. And I will abolish the bow, the sword, and war from the land, and I will make you lie down in safety."
Luke 3: 5 "'Every ravine shall be filled And every mountain and hill shall be made low, And the crooked shall be straight, And the rough places into smooth roads,...6 And all flesh shall see the salvation of God."
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
October 26, 2018 at 7:21 am
(October 26, 2018 at 7:20 am)CDF47 Wrote: (October 26, 2018 at 4:41 am)Wololo Wrote: Chapter and verse please. Because pretty much every christian denomination say animals don't have souls, citing bible as their evidence.
One of tye fundamental "rwasons" why humans aren't animals per the bible is the alleged possession of a soul, supposedly our "image of god".
For me he has 861.
Isaiah 65:23-25 They won’t toil in vain nor bear children doomed to misfortune, for they will be offspring blessed by the Lord, they and their descendants with them. Before they call, I will answer, while they are still speaking, I’ll hear. “The wolf and the lamb will feed together, and the lion will eat straw like the ox; but as for the serpent— its food will be dust! They won’t harm or destroy on my entire holy mountain.”
Hosea 2:18: "And I will make for them a covenant on that day with the beasts of the field, the birds of the heavens, and the creeping things of the ground. And I will abolish the bow, the sword, and war from the land, and I will make you lie down in safety."
Luke 3: 5 "'Every ravine shall be filled And every mountain and hill shall be made low, And the crooked shall be straight, And the rough places into smooth roads,...6 And all flesh shall see the salvation of God."
And none of that happened. So what?
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
October 26, 2018 at 7:21 am
(October 26, 2018 at 6:59 am)CDF47 Wrote: (October 26, 2018 at 6:53 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: Okay, we're done here.
I've seen estimates as high as 128 billion. So I think a good range of values is 105 - 130 billion years.
This simply means that most human beings lived prior to the "good news" of Jesus, and, of course, as has been shown, we did not descend from 2 individuals.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
October 26, 2018 at 7:23 am
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(October 26, 2018 at 7:21 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: (October 26, 2018 at 7:20 am)CDF47 Wrote: Isaiah 65:23-25 They won’t toil in vain nor bear children doomed to misfortune, for they will be offspring blessed by the Lord, they and their descendants with them. Before they call, I will answer, while they are still speaking, I’ll hear. “The wolf and the lamb will feed together, and the lion will eat straw like the ox; but as for the serpent— its food will be dust! They won’t harm or destroy on my entire holy mountain.”
Hosea 2:18: "And I will make for them a covenant on that day with the beasts of the field, the birds of the heavens, and the creeping things of the ground. And I will abolish the bow, the sword, and war from the land, and I will make you lie down in safety."
Luke 3: 5 "'Every ravine shall be filled And every mountain and hill shall be made low, And the crooked shall be straight, And the rough places into smooth roads,...6 And all flesh shall see the salvation of God."
And none of that happened. So what?
This occurs in heaven on God's holy mountain.
(October 26, 2018 at 7:21 am)Jehanne Wrote: (October 26, 2018 at 6:59 am)CDF47 Wrote: I've seen estimates as high as 128 billion. So I think a good range of values is 105 - 130 billion years.
This simply means that most human beings lived prior to the "good news" of Jesus, and, of course, as has been shown, we did not descend from 2 individuals.
Science shows we did descend from two different humans; Y-chromosome Adam and mitochondrial Eve. Salvation is always through Christ, even back dating to those prior to Christ's birth.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
October 26, 2018 at 8:07 am
(October 26, 2018 at 7:23 am)CDF47 Wrote: This occurs in heaven on God's holy mountain. Now you are an expert on celestial geography. How cute.
(October 26, 2018 at 7:23 am)CDF47 Wrote: (October 26, 2018 at 7:21 am)Jehanne Wrote: This simply means that most human beings lived prior to the "good news" of Jesus, and, of course, as has been shown, we did not descend from 2 individuals.
Science shows we did descend from two different humans; Y-chromosome Adam and mitochondrial Eve. Salvation is always through Christ, even back dating to those prior to Christ's birth. And that is a flat out lie. This has been explained to you ad nauseum such that even a small child could work it out.
MT eve and Y-Adam did not exist at the same time but 100,000 years apart and neither are one individual but change over time.
Climb back under your bridge.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
October 26, 2018 at 8:14 am
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
October 26, 2018 at 9:07 am
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(October 26, 2018 at 8:07 am)Abaddon_ire Wrote: (October 26, 2018 at 7:23 am)CDF47 Wrote: This occurs in heaven on God's holy mountain. Now you are an expert on celestial geography. How cute.
(October 26, 2018 at 7:23 am)CDF47 Wrote: Science shows we did descend from two different humans; Y-chromosome Adam and mitochondrial Eve. Salvation is always through Christ, even back dating to those prior to Christ's birth. And that is a flat out lie. This has been explained to you ad nauseum such that even a small child could work it out.
MT eve and Y-Adam did not exist at the same time but 100,000 years apart and neither are one individual but change over time.
Climb back under your bridge.
There age apart is unknown. "Scientists who share the Darwinian bias naturally presume that these two were not the only humans alive during their pre-child bearing lifetimes, while biblical creationists naturally presume that they were. As for determining when these two actually lived respectively, the conventional perspective is founded upon uniformitarian assumptions which many creationists reject, and with fair reason. So there is disagreement there, too. Naturally, the Darwinian time frame is much longer (tens to hundreds of thousands of years), presuming an Old-Earth scenario, while the Young-Earth perspective is much shorter (less than ten thousand years). What we can say with fair certainty is that, regardless of time frames and alleged contemporaries, every man alive today descended from one man while every human alive today descended from one woman."
https://www.gotquestions.org/Chromosomal-Adam-Mitochondrial-Eve.html
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
October 26, 2018 at 9:15 am
(October 26, 2018 at 9:07 am)CDF47 Wrote: (October 26, 2018 at 8:07 am)Abaddon_ire Wrote: Now you are an expert on celestial geography. How cute.
And that is a flat out lie. This has been explained to you ad nauseum such that even a small child could work it out.
MT eve and Y-Adam did not exist at the same time but 100,000 years apart and neither are one individual but change over time.
Climb back under your bridge.
There age apart is unknown. "Scientists who share the Darwinian bias naturally presume that these two were not the only humans alive during their pre-child bearing lifetimes, while biblical creationists naturally presume that they were. As for determining when these two actually lived respectively, the conventional perspective is founded upon uniformitarian assumptions which many creationists reject, and with fair reason. So there is disagreement there, too. Naturally, the Darwinian time frame is much longer (tens to hundreds of thousands of years), presuming an Old-Earth scenario, while the Young-Earth perspective is much shorter (less than ten thousand years). What we can say with fair certainty is that, regardless of time frames and alleged contemporaries, every man alive today descended from one man while every human alive today descended from one woman."
https://www.gotquestions.org/Chromosomal-Adam-Mitochondrial-Eve.html
Are you a young earth creationist?
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
October 26, 2018 at 9:45 am
(October 26, 2018 at 9:15 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: (October 26, 2018 at 9:07 am)CDF47 Wrote: There age apart is unknown. "Scientists who share the Darwinian bias naturally presume that these two were not the only humans alive during their pre-child bearing lifetimes, while biblical creationists naturally presume that they were. As for determining when these two actually lived respectively, the conventional perspective is founded upon uniformitarian assumptions which many creationists reject, and with fair reason. So there is disagreement there, too. Naturally, the Darwinian time frame is much longer (tens to hundreds of thousands of years), presuming an Old-Earth scenario, while the Young-Earth perspective is much shorter (less than ten thousand years). What we can say with fair certainty is that, regardless of time frames and alleged contemporaries, every man alive today descended from one man while every human alive today descended from one woman."
https://www.gotquestions.org/Chromosomal-Adam-Mitochondrial-Eve.html
Are you a young earth creationist?
No, old earth creationist.
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RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
October 26, 2018 at 9:47 am
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I think it's hilarious that creationists think that makes a difference and bicker with each other about it. You're both still wrong, for all of the same reasons....and I have to ask...since you're positing a magical creator in the first place, why is time a problem to be solved? Does god have a cantrip for everything else, but not that?
(at some point, I hope you realize that your answers create more problems for your fairy, while explaining nothing - shit in one hand and wish in the other, though..right?)
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