DNA Proves Existence of a Designer

[Amarok]

And the chant of Ever goes ever on

[Paleophyte]

Things happen spontaneously and randomly in the big rock all the time.  

I would argue that no they don't.

Then you would be wrong. Hardly the first time.

Oh really? Prove it.

and there is absolutely no logical premise for anything happening at all without some form of consciousness and intelligence.

There is hard data.

Oh really? Let's see this hard data.
I'll be waiting for you to produce it.

Have some ZPE.

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And the chant of Ever goes ever on

[Amarok]

Things happen spontaneously and randomly in the big rock all the time.  



Oh really? Prove it.



Oh really? Let's see this hard data.
I'll be waiting for you to produce it.

Have some ZPE.

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And the chant of Ever goes ever on

 Awesome

[Everena]

Events that occured how? Events do not occur without conscious and intelligent action. A rock by itself could not cause any event to occur ever. That makes the probability of it happening without consciousness or intelligence involved ZERO.

You are truly dense.

I just got done explaining to you why nothing fundamentally needs intelligence,

You think so? Your explanation is illogical and impossible and unproven.

and Nothing can even theoretically possibly need intelligence

What? Why then does every single conscious living thing on our planet have intelligence and a brain if according to you, nothing needs it?

because the very concept of intelligence completely collapses if you look rigorously at deeper level of what alledged makes up intelligence.

You couldn't even look at it all without intelligence. That is a self defeating argument.

 So it is just a bucket arbitrarily selected for convience in crudely classifying things in primitive mental model of all that happens in reality. if you strip away the concepts adopted for convenience, there is not such fundamentally coherent concept as intelligence.  Intelligence itself is nothing more than a an arbitrarily selected subset of spontaneous processes that follow the same probabilistic quantum laws as everything else In reality,

Quantum laws could not even exist without intelligence.

producing a vaguely and arbitrarily selected set of quantum mechanically governed outcomes that are in principle no different from anything else produced in reality.

Produced by who in reality? That rock in your front yard? Still impossible.

[Anomalocaris]

To put it in terms so simple even creationists can understand, but won’t because they are losers:

Intelligence is not a thing.  It is but a crude and arbitrary grouping of a tiny subset of natural and spontaneous processes leading to manifestation of change we arbitrily call “behavior” that is sometimes seen amongst constitutes of the universe.

Therefore to say intelligence created the universe is in principle nonsense.    It is not just that it isn’t as a matter of fact true.  It is not even a concept that could in theory be true, because there is no such “thing” as intelligence.

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Everything that has brain needs the biochemical process that goes on in the brain.  We just happen to arbitrarily classify some of those processes as parts of a vaguely defined and made up concept called intelligence.  The more wishthing amongst us also include some of the process in the made up concept called soul, Nd further stupidly assert the soul - nothing but a value and lose association of biochemical process in the brain - needs no brain.

[The Grand Nudger]

You keep asking "who' did things that no one did, but you also reject any "who" that actually did do something so long as that who isn't the meat fairy.

It's precious.  "Who" made you post?  You're just the meat, just a bunch of chemical reactions.  Meat Fairy just has to have his hand up your ass because otherwise it would be impossible for you to post!!!

Note the three exclamation points.  That makes it three times as true.

[Amarok]

To put it in terms so simple even creationists can understand, but won’t because they are losers:

Intelligence is not a thing.  It is but a crude and arbitrary grouping of a tiny subset of natural and spontaneous behaviors seen amongst constitutes of the universe.

Therefore to say intelligence created the universe is in principle nonsense.    It is not just that it isn’t as a matter of fact true.  It is not even a concept that could in theory be true.

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Everything that has brain needs the process that goes on in the brain.  We just happen to arbitrarily classify some of those processes as parts of a vaguely defined and made up concept called intelligence.

None the less she will chant the words "Impossible " and "intelligence " and ignore ever response

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You keep asking "who' did things that no one did, but you also reject any "who" that actually did do something so long as that who isn't the meat fairy.

It's precious.  "Who" made you post?  You're just the meat, just a bunch of chemical reactions.  Meat Fairy just has to have his hand up your ass because otherwise it would be impossible for you to post!!!

Note the three exclamation points.  That makes it three times as true.

[Nakara]

I have no idea why you guys are bothering 

At this point I just want to see this thread hit 1k pages.

[Amarok]

I have no idea why you guys are bothering 

At this point I just want to see this thread hit 1k pages.

A worthy goal 

[Abaddon_ire]

The thread just keeps on giving. Fungii are plants indeed. I laughed my ass off.

I hope this thread never stops. Everena gets dumber by the post with hilarious results.

You spelled fungi wrong.

You flounced wrong. Four times you have claimed you will ignore me forthwith. Four times you have failed to do so.

You are a failure.

Ignore me al-fucking-ready if that is your wish, it just makes you look dumber if that were even possible at this point when you keep insisting you're going to but then don't.

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You spelled fungi wrong.

Nitpicking

So I double tapped the "i". With me that is a bug.

With Everena it is a feature one cannot dispose of.