DNA Proves Existence of a Designer

[The Grand Nudger]

That's nice, and I have some followups on that whenever you get around to responding to what you quoted.

[Peebothuhlu]

I don't believe we slowly descended from monkeys.

NO!

Bad Zoot ! Naughty Zoot !

You don't go lighting the grail fires to attract questing Knights!

And you don't go telling the lies about humans descending from moneys !

If this keeps happening, there will be a spanking!

[Amarok]

I don't believe we slowly descended from monkeys.

Good thing evolution doesn't say that then

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Some believe Neanderthals fall into beasts of the field, Biblically speaking.  They have a pretty common body design with humans but they have differences.  I do not believe Neanderthals are counted as human beings.  Some believe the opposite, that they fall into the human category, which I disagree with.

Mystic crap  Neanderthals were an offshoot of homo family and your opinions based feverish fairytales means nothing 

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No, but DNA indicates that

No it doesn't

[Bucky Ball]

The ancient Hebrews had no clue there even was a category of homo neaderthalensis.
It is nowhere even mentioned in any Bible text.
http://humanorigins.si.edu/evidence/huma...rthalensis
The POINT is they were able to interbreed. You even know what that means ?
http://humanorigins.si.edu/evidence/huma...ls/species

You forgot to say EXACTLY why they are not human.

They may fall in the human category then as many believe. Either that or they are considered beasts of the field Bibically speaking. Not every beast is named. That's not the point of the book.

Speaking of the naming of the beasts ...
Genesis 2:19
"Now the LORD God had formed out of the ground all the wild animals and all the birds in the sky. He brought them to the man to see what he would name them; and whatever the man called each living creature, that was its name. So the man gave names to all the livestock, the birds in the sky and all the wild animals. But for Adam none of them proved to be a suitable mate."

Ahem.
"Proved to be a suitable mate".
1. Kind of a dumb god ya got there, doesn't know what to make him for a mate.
2. What were the "tryouts" like ?

[Abaddon_ire]

At work.

No CDF47.

it's not that we want you to just 'Read books' (Or even just we want you to 'Read science books')

We would like you to read/look into the actual science, as it were.

That you keep bringing up the likes of Meyer and Behe.

I know I've asked you to find/quote other sources. Any other sources from 'Your side'.

At least it will give us different errors, fibs, straw-men, misconceptions and nuttery to debunk.  

A nice change of pace.

So..... you're happy with mtEve. (You're still misrepresenting the information but... *Shrug)

How do you reconcile that mtEve and yAdam never actually met/existed at the same time?

This'll be fun.

I've read plenty of science books in the past.

It is unknown whether the first MtEve and YAdam ever met.

You are claiming that they did. Prove it.

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At work.

No CDF47.

it's not that we want you to just 'Read books' (Or even just we want you to 'Read science books')

We would like you to read/look into the actual science, as it were.

That you keep bringing up the likes of Meyer and Behe.

I know I've asked you to find/quote other sources. Any other sources from 'Your side'.

At least it will give us different errors, fibs, straw-men, misconceptions and nuttery to debunk.  

A nice change of pace.

So..... you're happy with mtEve. (You're still misrepresenting the information but... *Shrug)

How do you reconcile that mtEve and yAdam never actually met/existed at the same time?

This'll be fun.

I've read plenty of science books in the past.

It is unknown whether the first MtEve and YAdam ever met.

But it is known that mtEve had a mother and at least one sister. And similarly, at least one aunt. It's right there in the definition of what mtEve actually is.

This is rather easy to prove, unlike most aspects of the theory.

1. Find any matrilineal lineage that leads to mtEve's mother.

2. Find any matrilineal lineage that does not lead to mtEve's mother. 

3. Two tasks accomplished. 
A. mtEve's mother exists.
and
B. mtEve's mother is not mtEve.

You are still missing the key word "matrilineal" either because you know that it is fatal to your argument or you simply are that stupid.

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OK CDF, let's try this from a different direction.

There actually is a way that your idiotic belief that everyone can be traced back to one particular man and one particular woman can work quite easily.

The solution is really straightforward. You acknowledge that something in the region of 128 billion humans have ever existed. That's a fuzzy figure at best, but roughly works. Personally, in such discussions, I go with 120, but close enough. We can never reach any accurate count so approximations must suffice.

To make your idea work, all of them, all 128 billion of them male and female, without exception must have had at least one son and at least one daughter who both reproduced. That is the only way your daft idea can work. Were it otherwise, either a male or female lineage would go extinct.

You are claiming that this is so, everyone without exception must have had a minimum of one son AND one daughter.

Do you think that is a reasonable claim to make?

[fredd bear]

"I've read plenty of science books in the past."

Really.

Name three.

[Abaddon_ire]

Or perhaps this might make you think about such matters.

We know there are 7 billion people alive today (give or take)

We know those people had 2 parents each which makes 14 billion parents. (I am aware of the overlap)

But each of those parents had tow parents themselves (our grandparents). That's 28 billion grandparents.

But each of those in turn had two parents (our great grandparents) That's 56 billion grandparents.

Great-great grandparents add another 112 billion people that ever lived. Already within 4 generations, we are up to 217 billion antecedants just to produce the 7 billion of us alive today. Wait until you see the numbers back unto the time of your lover jesus. (you claim jesus loves you. By definition he is your lover)

So how do you explain this?

[TwoKnives99]

This is still here?

I remember when this was only 849 pages long

I admire your tenacious persistence CDF, but you should quit while you're ahead and save us more headache

[LadyForCamus]

Ya’ll are suckerrrrrrrs!

[TwoKnives99]

Ya’ll are suckerrrrrrrs!

Yes, yes we are

I have a single question for CDF and all my fellow Christian brethren

When will you motherfuckers learn?