DNA Proves Existence of a Designer

[Nay_Sayer]

CD47

No, it would be a fact.  Is there a reason you'd doubt me?

Oh yeah there are reasons.  One being that SETI has found basically nothing in there long search for little green men.

Aliens are mysterious. Not everything is known that can be known of them, Science can't know everything.   Anything else? If not that's pretty weak.

 I can share my alien encounter if asked. So it will be known and it is clear they exist.

ETA: If you reply to this, Please do not do so in a mass quote, It's very difficult to requote those and reply.
Bless.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

ETA: If you reply to this, Please do not do so in a mass quote, It's very difficult to requote those and reply.
Bless.

It's a feature, not a bug.

[Abaddon_ire]

A. computer simulations are not outside time and space

B. computer simulations have long gone beyond mere predictability a long time ago.

Take for example simulators of collisions between galaxies. Why would those exist if it were possible to know in advance what the result would be? Are you really that much of a moron?

Galaxies collide...big deal.

Ah so you really are that thick. Right then.

[CDF47]

Far far from it. We will be provided more answers when we die probably. I have questions of my own.

I'm not suspending disbelief for a probably.

Some will.

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By the end of this post I will have made a prophecy that came true. My prophecy is that I'm going to announce that my prophecy came true, and then I'm gonna to point out how accurate my prophecy was.

You see, a prophecy in the sense of predicting that something will happen, which then happens, doesn't require supernatural knowledge. You could make a lot of guesses, and count on people's tendency to remember the hits and forget the misses. Dion Fortune built her career on that. You could pass on an oral tradition and incorporate new events in a way that seems to the casual observer that they were successfully predicted when they had already happened at the time of the story's revision. You could have a canny enough grasp of current events to be able to discern the long-term results, or understand how history repeats itself (there will be wars and rumors of wars, famines and plagues, Kingdoms coming to ruin, summers and winters, etc.). You could take it on yourself to make sure the events you've predicted actually happen (as I'm about to do). I've not exhausted the non-supernatural possibilities at all.

You could even understand that prophecies aren't necessarily predictions at all, they can be inspirational, or admonitions, a prophecy is supposed to be a message from a deity. Maybe you should start a thread about prophecy if that's what you want to hang your hat on. Anyway, my prophecy came true. 100% accuracy, and it wasn't even in the Bible.

Yeah, a thread on prophecy would be good if people want to discuss it more thoroughly.

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We already covered the prophecy ground over a thousand pages ago.  Honestly, we've covered all of the IDiot ground.

CDF cannot accept that the "prophecies" in magic book are not only not prophecy, but that they also do not come true - even when presented with evidence demonstrating that fact.  He resorted, instead, to the incomprehensible claim that a city in a picture simply wasn't there.  For example.

CDF cannot accept any scholarly position on the contents or composition of magic book.

CDF cannot accept that there is a known mechanism for "design" in nature, by which gradual changes in a population are sifted through a life and death pass/fail selection process.  

CDF cannot accept that "information" has known vectors of origin outside of any mind, by simple material interactions, of which DNA is a wildly over-representative subject.

CDF cannot accept that the laws of heredity establish his relationship with other primates, rather than his being a descendant of a mud man and rib woman.

CDF cannot accept that mt-eve and y-adam were not breeding partners.  

CDF cannot accept that speciation has been observed in the lab and in the field.

CDF cannot accept that ID was an intentional political wedge rather than a scientific hypothesis.

Finally.....

CDF cannot accept that anyone else is less credulous than himself.

The proof is in the information that functions as a code.

[madog]

Yeah, a thread on prophecy would be good if people want to discuss it more thoroughly.

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I prophesize there will be a thread on prophecy ....

[Amarok]

Computers are physical, and exist in space and time, so that’s an invalid analogy. What is god made of? How does he exist outside of space? How does he act absent time? What are the mechanisms by which he possesses omnipotence and omniscience? You haven’t a single concrete answer to any of these questions, yet you’re worried about alleged gaps in evolutionary theory? Hilarious.

God is mysterious. Not everything is known that can be known of God.

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Nope they are anything but anything but excellent and they are nuttier then a Cashew growers convention .

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And crazy talk above

Just label everything you dislike as crazy whether it is true or not I see.

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No, it would be a fact.  Is there a reason you'd doubt me?

Oh yeah there are reasons.  One being that SETI has found basically nothing in there long search for little green men.

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Not a single one

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No it's not . It's one religious loon ranting his delusions and everyone else correcting him .

No, it's far from that. I shared my religion when asked.  So it was known and it is clear He exists.

Actually it is . You preached your empty mythology , And you failed in everyway

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The proof is in the information that functions as a code.

Which you totally failed to back up or defend

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Actually prophecies in the Bible came true. It is the only source that can truly make that claim.

You have yet to back a word of this

[CDF47]

Galaxies collide...big deal.

Ah so you really are that thick. Right then.

Galaxies colliding shows nothing.

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God is mysterious. Not everything is known that can be known of God.

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Just label everything you dislike as crazy whether it is true or not I see.

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Oh yeah there are reasons.  One being that SETI has found basically nothing in there long search for little green men.

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No, it's far from that. I shared my religion when asked.  So it was known and it is clear He exists.

Actually it is . You preached your empty mythology , And you failed in everyway

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The proof is in the information that functions as a code.

Which you totally failed to back up or defend

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Actually prophecies in the Bible came true. It is the only source that can truly make that claim.

You have yet to back a word of this

I backed up all of it.

[no one]

Backing yourself into a corner, is not quite the same thing as backing up your words.

[The Grand Nudger]

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We already covered the prophecy ground over a thousand pages ago.  Honestly, we've covered all of the IDiot ground.

CDF cannot accept that the "prophecies" in magic book are not only not prophecy, but that they also do not come true - even when presented with evidence demonstrating that fact.  He resorted, instead, to the incomprehensible claim that a city in a picture simply wasn't there.  For example.

CDF cannot accept any scholarly position on the contents or composition of magic book.

CDF cannot accept that there is a known mechanism for "design" in nature, by which gradual changes in a population are sifted through a life and death pass/fail selection process.  

CDF cannot accept that "information" has known vectors of origin outside of any mind, by simple material interactions, of which DNA is a wildly over-representative subject.

CDF cannot accept that the laws of heredity establish his relationship with other primates, rather than his being a descendant of a mud man and rib woman.

CDF cannot accept that mt-eve and y-adam were not breeding partners.  

CDF cannot accept that speciation has been observed in the lab and in the field.

CDF cannot accept that ID was an intentional political wedge rather than a scientific hypothesis.

Finally.....

CDF cannot accept that anyone else is less credulous than himself.

The proof is in the information that functions as a code.

The proof of what, nutbar? Something not covered by the bold? All information is encoded , by definition.

Here's what you should be wondering. Who turned you on to ID, initially? Who had so little respect for you, as a person, and for your christian faith....that they sent you down this ridiculous path?

[CDF47]

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The proof is in the information that functions as a code.

The proof of what, nutbar?  Something not covered by the bold? All information is encoded , by definition.  

Here's what you should be wondering.  Who turned you on to ID, initially?  Who had so little respect for you, as a person, and for your christian faith....that they sent you down this ridiculous path?

I discovered ID on my own doing my own research on the subject since my public and Catholic school system failed in these regards and others.