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RE: Open discussion of the Christian Why We're Here thread
May 8, 2018 at 4:23 pm
(May 8, 2018 at 4:07 pm)Mathilda Wrote: (May 8, 2018 at 4:04 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I genuinely don't know what you are talking about. A Theist's post said nothing about the proposed civility subforum (aka, safe zone as you'd like to call it). I saw no talk of it anywhere on that debate thread.
We're not allowed to post to that thread. Not even non-christian theists who would make the conversation more interesting.
That thread is in the debate section. The debate section has been there for years, and anyone can use it (meaning if you wanted to open a debate with only 10 other atheists, you could do that too). The debate section is not the civility section I am proposing, which doesn't exist yet, and unlike the debate section, would be open for everyone.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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RE: Open discussion of the Christian Why We're Here thread
May 8, 2018 at 4:23 pm
Yeah, not actually going to bother reading that Drich.
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RE: Open discussion of the Christian Why We're Here thread
May 8, 2018 at 4:24 pm
(May 8, 2018 at 2:16 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: (May 8, 2018 at 2:07 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: Anybody seen A Theist's most recent post, #24. He wants to take the safe zone and run with it discussing all manor of christianity.
Sounds to me like it might be time to shut it down. AFAIC it was barely a good idea to begin with.
JFC, now Dirch has also jumped with post #26. I didn't join AF to listen to a christian discussion with no chance for input.
If only there were some way to not read that thread. I can't think of how it'd be possible, but if anyone figures it out, you'd be doing a lot of us who didn't join this site to listen to christian discussions a huge favor.
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RE: Open discussion of the Christian Why We're Here thread
May 8, 2018 at 4:24 pm
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(May 8, 2018 at 4:07 pm)Mathilda Wrote: There are plenty of christian forums they can go to to chat about their religion from which atheists are barred. They don't need a section on AF as well.
It's a debate among Christian AF members within the Atheists Forums' debate section about Christians participating on Atheist Forums. That seems pretty appropriate to me.
(May 8, 2018 at 4:07 pm)Mathilda Wrote: We're not allowed to post to that thread. Not even non-christian theists who would make the conversation more interesting.
You weren't allowed to post on my debate with Metis either. Presumably you didn't have a problem with that.
While it might be more interesting to have invited non-Christians it would also have been less focused. There was a trade-off.
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RE: Open discussion of the Christian Why We're Here thread
May 8, 2018 at 4:26 pm
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(May 8, 2018 at 4:21 pm)Kit Wrote: (May 8, 2018 at 4:04 pm)Mathilda Wrote: #24
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Not really seeing the issue with that post.
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I'm glad other's are seeing the BS she pulls by misquoting people does not fly here. She is so bad about misquoting people by giving out random numbers and assigning her own descriptions to them
(May 8, 2018 at 4:23 pm)Mathilda Wrote: Yeah, not actually going to bother reading that Drich.
yeah if you don't like to see egg on your face I would not read that either.
(May 8, 2018 at 4:23 pm)Mathilda Wrote: Yeah, not actually going to bother reading that Drich.
yeah if you don't like to see egg on your face I would not read that either.
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RE: Open discussion of the Christian Why We're Here thread
May 8, 2018 at 4:30 pm
(May 8, 2018 at 11:18 am)Tiberius Wrote: Did a bunch of Christians just make alpha male leave? I’m so confused. 
I don't think so, I believe he is struggling and the combination of what has happened in his discussions with atheist and now with Christians saying things he doesn't necessarily agree with just became the straw on the camels back. I hope he returns later on when he has had time to refresh, I've had to leave for awhile so that I could organize my thoughts and why I was here. If it's important enough to him he'll be back or at least on another atheist forum. Tiberius I want to thank you for opening up this forum for such discussion I believe in the end it will make a positive contribution to all who desire better relationships here.
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God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: Open discussion of the Christian Why We're Here thread
May 8, 2018 at 4:35 pm
There's been some nasty back and forth from both sides since the Christian Role debate started.
I just want to say that I am grateful that we Christians are given the opportunity to use the debate section here on AF to have a discussion among ourselves - even though we are theists and this is an atheist site. I am glad we were able to do that here, despite not being atheists. And I think the other Christians who are debating with me should feel the same way. In the midst of all this arguing, I don't want to come off as ungrateful or entitled.
Thanks Tibs and Vulcan for agreeing to mod for us, and thanks to AF in general for being a place where we can do that. 
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RE: Open discussion of the Christian Why We're Here thread
May 8, 2018 at 4:35 pm
(May 8, 2018 at 4:24 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: (May 8, 2018 at 4:07 pm)Mathilda Wrote: There are plenty of christian forums they can go to to chat about their religion from which atheists are barred. They don't need a section on AF as well.
It's a debate among Christian AF members within the Atheists Forums' debate section about Christians participating on Atheist Forums. That seems pretty appropriate to me.
And A_Theist deliberately changed the topic.
(May 8, 2018 at 4:24 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: (May 8, 2018 at 4:07 pm)Mathilda Wrote: We're not allowed to post to that thread. Not even non-christian theists who would make the conversation more interesting.
You weren't allowed to post on my debate with Metis either. Presumably you didn't have a problem with that.
Eh wot? I wasn't aware I posted somewhere I shouldn't have. Who is Metis? I can't even remember making such a post.
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RE: Open discussion of the Christian Why We're Here thread
May 8, 2018 at 4:40 pm
I think some people are confused as to what the debate section is, and are thinking it's the civility section. FYI, the civility section I am proposing would be all inclusive. Anyone would be able to post if they want to, so long as they follow the rules on civility and stay on topic.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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RE: Open discussion of the Christian Why We're Here thread
May 8, 2018 at 4:41 pm
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(May 8, 2018 at 4:35 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: ...even though we are theists and this is an atheist site. I am glad we were able to do that here, despite not being atheists.
Is this a site for atheists or a site about atheism? I always thought the later although I can somewhat understand atheists thinking the former.
(May 8, 2018 at 4:35 pm)Mathilda Wrote: (May 8, 2018 at 4:24 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: You weren't allowed to post on my debate with Metis either. Presumably you didn't have a problem with that.
Eh wot? I wasn't aware I posted somewhere I shouldn't have. Who is Metis? I can't even remember making such a post.
It was just a hypothetical. You wouldn't complain about being excluded from a thread in the debate forum, if it were another topic such as the Five Ways.
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