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RE: Open discussion of the Christian Why We're Here thread
May 6, 2018 at 5:48 pm
(May 6, 2018 at 5:15 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: I think the advice of God is that we turn away from the ignorant and don't engage in those who take the signs and proofs of God and his path for a mockery.
It's not only useless, but you don't want these people knowing the truth anyways, cause they aren't serious enough to not mix it with falsehood, and we have enough religious people doing that as is because they are playful to the matter, and don't take it seriously.
It's against every grain of reason for me to stay here, it's against God's advice, and a waste of time.
The one and only reason I stay here, it's because I'm addicted to the place. That's it.
Your honesty gave me a bit of a chuckle there.
But your individuality and your present need will be swept away by change,
and what you now ardently desire will one day become the object of abhorrence.
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RE: Open discussion of the Christian Why We're Here thread
May 6, 2018 at 5:53 pm
(May 6, 2018 at 4:10 pm)Quick Wrote: (May 6, 2018 at 3:50 pm)Minimalist Wrote: They habitually misinterpret "encouragement" as a reward for their particular belief system. I mean these are supposed adults who really think that a dead jew came back to life to atone for their sins. I mean, I just can't do it.
We are not on a theist forum.
So. Like a hungry squirrel they are desperate for the tiniest acorn of approval/acceptance for their fairy tales.
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RE: Open discussion of the Christian Why We're Here thread
May 6, 2018 at 5:55 pm
(May 6, 2018 at 4:41 pm)Hammy Wrote: (May 6, 2018 at 3:29 pm)Mathilda Wrote: It's not punishment. It's cause and effect.
My suspicion is that we probably agree on this matter.... but I am not sure what the point you are making here is, Mathilda. Can you perhaps elaborate? If that's not too much trouble. I don't mean to be obtuse. I promise it's unintentionally obtuse.
OK well take me. I used to be a troll.
Back in 1994 when I first got to university and gained access to news groups. First thing I did was troll the local news group. I was young, low self esteem, used to being an outcast and all I knew was to be ignored all the time I wasn't provoking a reaction. Whatever, it doesn't matter. I became unpopular but it was a learning experience. Three years later at the end of my degree, the news group started meeting up in person (it was local to the university). But also by that time I had grown as a person. They awarded me 'Best poster'. That wouldn't have happened if people had excused my actions and there had been no consequences to them. Doing that would have denied me a chance to become a better person.
So while it's good to understand where others are coming from. This shouldn't stop anyone from holding them to account. Doing so does nobody any favours. If Neo's posting behaviour on here makes him extremely unpopular then that's what he has to deal with.
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RE: Open discussion of the Christian Why We're Here thread
May 6, 2018 at 6:51 pm
Everyone loves Pope Francis; Pope Benedict not so much.
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RE: Open discussion of the Christian Why We're Here thread
May 6, 2018 at 7:06 pm
Chad is not a troll
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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RE: Open discussion of the Christian Why We're Here thread
May 6, 2018 at 7:08 pm
(May 6, 2018 at 6:51 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: Everyone loves Pope Francis; Pope Benedict not so much.
You and I have different definitions.
I don't have an anger problem, I have an idiot problem.
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RE: Open discussion of the Christian Why We're Here thread
May 6, 2018 at 7:10 pm
(This post was last modified: May 6, 2018 at 7:17 pm by Joods.)
(May 6, 2018 at 3:26 pm)Quick Wrote: (May 6, 2018 at 3:24 pm)Mathilda Wrote: That's always on my mind as well. But I also don't think that it should excuse him from the animosity he gets. I've seen people on other forums who started off as complete jerks and then turn their life around and become genuinely nice people. That won't happen if people excuse the behaviour and let it pass unchallenged. And if it is the way he is wired, then he needs to learn to adapt.
I do not think punishment is a good way to motivate people.
No one said anything about punishment. If Neo is being a jerk then he's going to get back what he dished out. If he wanted to be treated better, he should have been nicer.
(May 6, 2018 at 4:10 pm)Quick Wrote: (May 6, 2018 at 3:50 pm)Minimalist Wrote: They habitually misinterpret "encouragement" as a reward for their particular belief system. I mean these are supposed adults who really think that a dead jew came back to life to atone for their sins. I mean, I just can't do it.
We are not on a theist forum.
What does that have to do with this? Nothing, that's what. They come here. Are you saying that we should handle them with kid gloves so that their feelings don't get hurt? You haven't been here long so I'm just going to say that some people here invite the backlash they get.
(May 6, 2018 at 7:06 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Chad is not a troll
No one said he was. What's the point here?
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RE: Open discussion of the Christian Why We're Here thread
May 6, 2018 at 7:18 pm
(May 5, 2018 at 8:07 am)Wololo Wrote: It's a pointless wankfest...
And one of the most cringingly embarrassing things AF forums has ever done, and will soon die the ignominious death it rightfully deserves.
As this soon to be many page 'Right to Reply' thread will affirm.
Who thought creating that thread was a good idea?
Stand forward and identify yourselves!
It's amazing 'science' always seems to 'find' whatever it is funded for, and never the oppsite. Drich.
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RE: Open discussion of the Christian Why We're Here thread
May 6, 2018 at 7:37 pm
(May 6, 2018 at 1:01 pm)Whateverist Wrote: Why do so many (but NOT ALL) xtians think they know what everyone else should be doing
Yeah, I made a suggestion on whether Christians should have a role on an atheist forum...in a thread on the role of Christians in an atheist forum...to Christians who voluntarily joined the thread.
The nerve of me 
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RE: Open discussion of the Christian Why We're Here thread
May 6, 2018 at 7:37 pm
(May 6, 2018 at 7:10 pm)Joods Wrote: (May 6, 2018 at 3:26 pm)Quick Wrote: I do not think punishment is a good way to motivate people.
No one said anything about punishment. If Neo is being a jerk then he's going to get back what he dished out. If he wanted to be treated better, he should have been nicer.
(May 6, 2018 at 4:10 pm)Quick Wrote: We are not on a theist forum.
What does that have to do with this? Nothing, that's what. They come here. Are you saying that we should handle them with kid gloves so that their feelings don't get hurt? You haven't been here long so I'm just going to say that some people here invite the backlash they get.
(May 6, 2018 at 7:06 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Chad is not a troll
No one said he was. What's the point here?
Mathilda was telling her trolling story as a comparison to Chad.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh
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