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**brewer** · May 10, 2018 at 3:48 pm

I miss flying saucer lunches.

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**vorlon13** · May 10, 2018 at 5:44 pm

(May 10, 2018 at 2:32 pm)Fireball Wrote: I forget which administration it happened in (rep, though), but at one point there was discussion to classify ketchup as a vegetable. While sorta true...it ain't fresh vegetables, which was the point.

David Stockman working in the Reagan administration came up with that. A dab of ketchup was going to be deemed the equivalent of a serving of vegetables.

**The Grand Nudger** · (This post was last modified: May 10, 2018 at 5:59 pm by The Grand Nudger.)

Tomato waste processors everywhere would rejoice, lol.

Fireball · May 10, 2018 at 7:07 pm

(May 10, 2018 at 5:44 pm)vorlon13 Wrote:
(May 10, 2018 at 2:32 pm)Fireball Wrote: I forget which administration it happened in (rep, though), but at one point there was discussion to classify ketchup as a vegetable. While sorta true...it ain't fresh vegetables, which was the point.

David Stockman working in the Reagan administration came up with that. A dab of ketchup was going to be deemed the equivalent of a serving of vegetables.

Thanks, I was thinking the Reagan administration, but didn't want to commit to potentially erroneous assignment of guilt.

**vorlon13** · May 10, 2018 at 7:15 pm

Reagan admin took heat for snatching nutrition from the mouths of children while Nancy paraded designer gowns at state functions.

Little lunch · May 11, 2018 at 9:08 am

(May 10, 2018 at 3:48 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: I miss flying saucer lunches.

Yum, that looks tasty. :-)

**brewer** · (This post was last modified: May 11, 2018 at 9:24 am by brewer.)

(May 11, 2018 at 9:08 am)Little lunch Wrote:
(May 10, 2018 at 3:48 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: I miss flying saucer lunches.

Yum, that looks tasty. :-)

Only pic I could find that was close. The 7th grade version was not as appealing (our slice of plastic cheese was never melted and the meat was grayer) and would always follow a day when baked potato's were served.

**vorlon13** · May 11, 2018 at 9:21 am

I'm viewing next year on my farm with some concern. Losing the property tax deduction on the income tax return is a 'hit' and the possibility of my health insurance outlays going up to around $40,000 next year is going to be a huge problem, especially in regards to the administration pissing off China and their retaliatory cut in purchasing American soy, thus lowering the prices I get for selling it.

I don't have a 'firm' number on how much my health insurance is going up next year, but the Iowa legislature changed some laws making it easier for 'healthy' people to opt for non ACA compliant health insurance. When you hear Obamacare criticized for being susceptible to a 'death spiral' in regards to premiums, it is very real and vivid concern for me. I'm having some pricey health issues and I have ab ACA policy that is rapidly turning into a financial nightmare and I'm not sure what the alternative is. Those now legal, cheaper alternatives to ACA in Iowa are unavailable to me since I have an existing condition.

Wyrd of Gawd · May 15, 2018 at 8:15 pm

(May 11, 2018 at 9:21 am)vorlon13 Wrote: I'm viewing next year on my farm with some concern. Losing the property tax deduction on the income tax return is a 'hit' and the possibility of my health insurance outlays going up to around $40,000 next year is going to be a huge problem, especially in regards to the administration pissing off China and their retaliatory cut in purchasing American soy, thus lowering the prices I get for selling it.

I don't have a 'firm' number on how much my health insurance is going up next year, but the Iowa legislature changed some laws making it easier for 'healthy' people to opt for non ACA compliant health insurance. When you hear Obamacare criticized for being susceptible to a 'death spiral' in regards to premiums, it is very real and vivid concern for me. I'm having some pricey health issues and I have ab ACA policy that is rapidly turning into a financial nightmare and I'm not sure what the alternative is. Those now legal, cheaper alternatives to ACA in Iowa are unavailable to me since I have an existing condition.

You might want to consider moving to Ecuador = https://www.gringotree.com/retiring-to-e...c-refugee/

**Minimalist** · May 15, 2018 at 8:47 pm

(May 10, 2018 at 7:15 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: Reagan admin took heat for snatching nutrition from the mouths of children while Nancy paraded designer gowns at state functions.

Just like the WLB and the Slovenian slut.

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