What is your problem with Islam? Think about it

[WinterHold]

I just said I don't believe I did teach you anything and you took that to mean i said I taught you something and you still don't know what the word all means after all that. The definition I showed you about all meaning without exception is in the first Google search I did. A synonym of all is without exception, they have the same meaning.

I should note that there is another verse saying that "associating other Gods with Allah" is in fact a sin:

https://quran.com/4/48?translations=

Sura 4, The Quran:
Sahih International

(48) Indeed, Allah does not forgive association with Him, but He forgives what is less than that for whom He wills. And he who associates others with Allah has certainly fabricated a tremendous sin.

So you can cross that explanation; which takes me to the first one I made once again; it's an exception.

I take it to be cherry picking from your side now. The English translation is not literal.
In Arabic; instead of "but" there is "and".

You cherry picked a meaning for the word "but" that doesn't exist in other dictionaries.

[paulpablo]

I didn't mention the word "but" or show you a definition of it.

We were talking about the word "all" and I didn't cherry pick it, it's a synonym I found on my first google search.

 



I didn't even have to click on a website, it says it right there, fully, entirely, utterly, without reservation, in all aspects, WITHOUT EXCEPTION.

[Mister Agenda]

Because I don't actually believe I was teaching you the definition of the word "all" when I posted it there, I think you already knew it, but you just didn't want to know it.

"Taught me"?

You actually thought that you "taught me"?

He literally just said that he didn't actually believe he taught you. Are you trying to seem stupid for some reason?

[WinterHold]

I didn't mention the word "but" or show you a definition of it.

We were talking about the word "all" and I didn't cherry pick it, it's a synonym I found on my first google search.

 



I didn't even have to click on a website, it says it right there, fully, entirely, utterly, without reservation, in all aspects, WITHOUT EXCEPTION.

? where is the word "exception"?

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"Taught me"?

You actually thought that you "taught me"?

He literally just said that he didn't actually believe he taught you. Are you trying to seem stupid for some reason?

I judge by contexts, not words and gestures alone.

[paulpablo]

It's on the one I just showed you, all you did is type "all meaning" instead of "all definition" to get some different results, but they're still all interchangeable.


There's 2 which can reasonably be used in relation to sins.


1 

On your results was "to emphasize the greatest possible amount of quantity"

So if this is about sins, the greatest possible quantity of sins is 100% of them.  Not excluding shirk, to exclude shirk while also claiming the greatest quantity of sins will be forgiven is a contradiction.

2

A whole quantity.

If I say I'm forgiving a the whole quantity of sins it means there's a quantifiable amount of sins and there isn't one which I'm not forgiving.  So if I'm also saying there is one I'm not forgiving this is a contradiction. Because that wouldn't be the whole quantity.  It's like saying "I ate the whole quantity of cake.  I left a piece of cake."

It doesn't matter which interchangeable meaning or definition you use or whatever similar way you can use the synonyms to the word "all" it's still going to be considered a contradiction in the way the quran words it in the English language.

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He literally just said that he didn't actually believe he taught you. Are you trying to seem stupid for some reason?

I judge by contexts, not words and gestures alone.

I said I don't believe I taught you what the word "all" means, so by what contexts does that make you think I meant the exact opposite thing to what I said?

Considering we're on a forum and all you have to go by are the words I'm typing and the context of how I said it to you was extremely simple and straight forward.  I said I don't believe I taught you what the word "all" means.

[WinterHold]

It's on the one I just showed you, all you did is type "all meaning" instead of "all definition" to get some different results, but they're still all interchangeable.


There's 2 which can reasonably be used in relation to sins.


1 

On your results was "to emphasize the greatest possible amount of quantity"

So if this is about sins, the greatest possible quantity of sins is 100% of them.  Not excluding shirk, to exclude shirk while also claiming the greatest quantity of sins will be forgiven is a contradiction.

2

A whole quantity.

If I say I'm forgiving a the whole quantity of sins it means there's a quantifiable amount of sins and there isn't one which I'm not forgiving.  So if I'm also saying there is one I'm not forgiving this is a contradiction. Because that wouldn't be the whole quantity.  It's like saying "I ate the whole quantity of cake.  I left a piece of cake."

It doesn't matter which interchangeable meaning or definition you use or whatever similar way you can use the synonyms to the word "all" it's still going to be considered a contradiction in the way the quran words it in the English language.

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How so?

"Immigrants from (xx) are not allowed into the EU, but immigrants from other places are welcome if the government accepts".
Another form:

"Immigrants from (xx) are not allowed into the EU, and immigrants from other places are welcome if the government accepts".
Another form:

"Immigrants from (xx) are not allowed into the EU, though immigrants from other places are welcome if the government accepts".

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I judge by contexts, not words and gestures alone.

I said I don't believe I taught you what the word "all" means, so by what contexts does that make you think I meant the exact opposite thing to what I said?

Considering we're on a forum and all you have to go by are the words I'm typing and the context of how I said it to you was extremely simple and straight forward.  I said I don't believe I taught you what the word "all" means.

My bad. Truly.

[paulpablo]

Right. But all immigrants are welcome. Immigrants from Italy are not welcome. Is a contradiction.

It doesn't matter what example you use.

[WinterHold]

Right. But all immigrants are welcome. Immigrants from Italy are not welcome. Is a contradiction.

It doesn't matter what example you use.

You didn't include "but/and/though" in the above.

[paulpablo]

All immigrants are welcome but immigrants from Italy are not welcome is a contradiction.

[Angrboda]

All immigrants are welcome but immigrants from Italy are not welcome is a contradiction.

Perhaps it's just poor grammar, and what is intended instead is, "All immigrants but those from Italy are welcome." Hard to reconcile things when the thoughts get parted from each other; hard to reunite them again.

(But even so, that would somewhat impeach the text's credibility as a holy text.)