8000 Muslims massacred by White, racist European non-Muslims. All Euro vs Euro

[Minimalist]

Not the least of whom is the WLB and his gang of fundie fucktards.

[Bosnian_Atheist]

You can't use the Bosnian tragedy to justify Islamic terrorism today. That might be the reason why you created this thread.

That's a very serious accusation.

Quote where I justified terrorism with the massacre of my poor Muslim brothers and sisters from Bosnia.
Quote where; then we talk.

You didn't say it clearly, but you're reltivizing the Islamic terorrism in Western Europe becuase of anti-Western sentiment. It's truth that the US and western countries did some mistakes in the past but muslim community is the most responsible for this situation. Arab and Islamic world needs reformation in terms of education, liberalization and so on. That would me the best option for them intead of blaming the western countries. Arab world needs to become the subject of political scene in order to be respected.

[WinterHold]

Atlas,

I highly recommend a book to you, "Christianity is Not Great" an anthology edited by John Loftus.  Chapter 7 is entitled:  They Will Make Good Slaves And Christians - Christianity, Colonialism and the Destruction of Indigenous Peoples.

Whatever threat Islam presents in the twenty-first century pales by comparison to the rampage of Christianity around the globe over the past five hundred years. Admittedly, Christian Europe and the United States were not the first to fight wars, found colonies, and build empires. However, Christendom did so on a scale previously unknown and likely never to be known again. In the process, populations were decimated, cultures destroyed, and entire societies exterminated; the survivors were usually left in abject conditions, sick, poor, and restricted to marginal areas. All of this conquest was done by Christians, much of it in the name of Christianity.

You'll love it.  You'll probably enjoy most of the rest of it, too.  If you can't find the book PM me an email address and I'll send you the EPUB version.  You can get the reader online if you need it.

That piece of text is priceless, I can't believe that it was presented this obviously in the book !
I will love it indeed. In comparison, I know that Muslims had their share of wars and expansions, but the historical stories of Christian personalities like "Vlad the Impaler" and movements like "The Inquisitions" just keep me wondering how the gruesome brutality of the Christian inflation the world saw is rarely mentioned by the right wing of today.

Whole continents were emptied from its native people and whole cultures erased and destroyed.

[Minimalist]

just keep me wondering how the gruesome brutality of the Christian inflation the world saw is rarely mentioned by the right wing of today.

History is written by the winners.

[WinterHold]

That's a very serious accusation.

Quote where I justified terrorism with the massacre of my poor Muslim brothers and sisters from Bosnia.
Quote where; then we talk.

You didn't say it clearly, but you're reltivizing the Islamic terorrism in Western Europe becuase of anti-Western sentiment. It's truth that the US and western countries did some mistakes in the past but muslim community is the most responsible for this situation. Arab and Islamic world needs reformation in terms of education, liberalization and so on. That would me the best option for them intead of blaming the western countries. Arab world needs to become the subject of political scene in order to be respected.

So it's a charge now to talk about the mob mentality and what it does?

My posts were obvious:

https://atheistforums.org/thread-55207-p...pid1768434

AtlasS33 said:

Most -if not all- Jihadi terrorist propaganda I heard, is justifying the suicide bombings against civilians, and the acts of murder with actions like the ones carried on in Bosnia. Right now Jihadists in the Middle East did milk these sad historical events to the last; and new sources of milk needed to be found.

That is one thing that extremists never understand: when Non-Muslims massacre Muslims; terrorists from the Muslim side spawn for generations.
When Muslims massacre Non-Muslims; terrorists from the Non-Muslim side spawn for generations.

That's why the European right today, is the second face to the same terrorist Jihadists in here: they are the same monster.

How did you translate the bald text, into a "support from my side to terrorism"?
I just say that you shouldn't forget that both parties spawn terrorists. And with every hate crime a Muslim does, or a non-Muslim does, terrorists spawn from the opposing side in response.

Newton said it before me: "To each action there's a reaction".
Is Newton a terrorism enthusiast?

[Bosnian_Atheist]

You didn't say it clearly, but you're reltivizing the Islamic terorrism in Western Europe becuase of anti-Western sentiment. It's truth that the US and western countries did some mistakes in the past but muslim community is the most responsible for this situation. Arab and Islamic world needs reformation in terms of education, liberalization and so on. That would me the best option for them intead of blaming the western countries. Arab world needs to become the subject of political scene in order to be respected.

So it's a charge now to talk about the mob mentality and what it does?

My posts were obvious:

https://atheistforums.org/thread-55207-p...pid1768434

AtlasS33 said:

Most -if not all- Jihadi terrorist propaganda I heard, is justifying the suicide bombings against civilians, and the acts of murder with actions like the ones carried on in Bosnia. Right now Jihadists in the Middle East did milk these sad historical events to the last; and new sources of milk needed to be found.

That is one thing that extremists never understand: when Non-Muslims massacre Muslims; terrorists from the Muslim side spawn for generations.
When Muslims massacre Non-Muslims; terrorists from the Non-Muslim side spawn for generations.

That's why the European right today, is the second face to the same terrorist Jihadists in here: they are the same monster.

How did you translate the bald text, into a "support from my side to terrorism"?
I just say that you shouldn't forget that both parties spawn terrorists. And with every hate crime a Muslim does, or a non-Muslim does, terrorists spawn from the opposing side in response.

Newton said it before me: "To each action there's a reaction".
Is Newton a terrorism enthusiast?

I was referring to your older posts where you blame the white people for almost everything bad through the human's history (not mentioning good things white people done through the centuries). It seems that you still believe the problems are the western countries, but like I said before Arab world needs to stop blaming others and at least start to make the stable countries in the Middle East.

[WinterHold]

So it's a charge now to talk about the mob mentality and what it does?

My posts were obvious:

https://atheistforums.org/thread-55207-p...pid1768434



How did you translate the bald text, into a "support from my side to terrorism"?
I just say that you shouldn't forget that both parties spawn terrorists. And with every hate crime a Muslim does, or a non-Muslim does, terrorists spawn from the opposing side in response.

Newton said it before me: "To each action there's a reaction".
Is Newton a terrorism enthusiast?

I was referring to your older posts where you blame the white people for almost everything bad through the human's history (not mentioning good things white people done through the centuries). It seems that you still believe the problems are the western countries, but like I said before Arab world needs to stop blaming others and at least start to make the stable countries in the Middle East.

The oldest post I made in this thread is the thread itself.
In it I said:

AtlasS33 Said:
Nobody dared to call these people terrorists, being European and white didn't stand in their side also; showing me and every Muslim that the west's problem is with this faith. Tomorrow, the sons and daughters of this trash will eat up all of Europe; they already started to do so I mean look at the rightist movements.

I literally said that the "sons and daughters of the people who did the massacre and their likes, will infect all of Europe".
? I don't see the accusation you made.

As for the cultural problem in Europe regarding exporting violence, ask native Americans or read about the Inquisitions, crimes of the American forces in Iraq, and finish the tour by seeing the casualties of World War 2.

[The Grand Nudger]

Hardly a european problem.  More of a human problem.  Whomever holds the most efficient means of slaughter ends up posting the biggest numbers at any given time.  Once upon a time, it was the islamic empire, they cut a swath across the known world.  Then... they lost that edge, and became the wheat instead of the thresher.

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That's a very serious accusation.

Quote where I justified terrorism with the massacre of my poor Muslim brothers and sisters from Bosnia.
Quote where; then we talk.

You didn't say it clearly, but you're reltivizing the Islamic terorrism in Western Europe becuase of anti-Western sentiment. It's truth that the US and western countries did some mistakes in the past but muslim community is the most responsible for this situation. Arab and Islamic world needs reformation in terms of education, liberalization and so on. That would me the best option for them intead of blaming the western countries. Arab world needs to become the subject of political scene in order to be respected.

You;re talking to a brick wall, on that count.  Our buddy atlas thinks that the ME (and, ofc, the entire world) needs to return to islamism.  That's his grand solution, lol.

[Bosnian_Atheist]

I was referring to your older posts where you blame the white people for almost everything bad through the human's history (not mentioning good things white people done through the centuries). It seems that you still believe the problems are the western countries, but like I said before Arab world needs to stop blaming others and at least start to make the stable countries in the Middle East.

The oldest post I made in this thread is the thread itself.
In it I said:

AtlasS33 Said:
Nobody dared to call these people terrorists, being European and white didn't stand in their side also; showing me and every Muslim that the west's problem is with this faith. Tomorrow, the sons and daughters of this trash will eat up all of Europe; they already started to do so I mean look at the rightist movements.

I literally said that the "sons and daughters of the people who did the massacre and their likes, will infect all of Europe".
? I don't see the accusation you made.

As for the cultural problem in Europe regarding exporting violence, ask native Americans or read about the Inquisitions, crimes of the American forces in Iraq, and finish the tour by seeing the casualties of World War 2.

I don't think that these right-wing and pro-fascist movements will spread around Europe, while on the other side we see that Islamic terorrism grows rapidly. So, you should be rather worried for the situation in the Middle East, that could bring a new problem for both the Arab and western countries. White people learnt from their mistakes in the past.

[The Grand Nudger]

The only thing islamists appear to have taken from their own mistakes... is that they'd should have gone even bigger with them, lol.  The west also had a period like that as the catholic church died.