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The witness argument (yet again, I know, I know)
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 (June 10, 2018 at 7:19 pm)Khemikal Wrote: So what if it is? We know it's not, it's the foundation of all we know. Reason and love are intertwined, in that it's rational to love true beauty and greatness and praise what ought to be appreciated which is to be assessed with reason. More proof that logic is God's word as it was defined in the past. RE: The witness argument (yet again, I know, I know)
June 10, 2018 at 7:22 pm
(This post was last modified: June 10, 2018 at 7:23 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
IOW, you dont actually believe in those horrible consequences you tried to appeal to?
If love and reason are intertwined and its rational to love true beauty - that's true regardless of whether or not a god exists. If love is delusional, then that;s true regardless of whether or not a god exists. I;ve certainly seen plenty of both. Try again.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
Nope, proved they prove God already... you try harder.
RE: The witness argument (yet again, I know, I know)
June 10, 2018 at 7:25 pm
(This post was last modified: June 10, 2018 at 7:25 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Took what, two posts to get you into your "uh-huh, too!" loop? Some argument.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
I'll wait for Boru. You obviously have nothing to offer.
 (June 10, 2018 at 6:57 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: You should take a logic course. You can in language sometimes state the conclusion or a premise that is a conclusion from other premises. Order doesn't matter. You have to think and reflect, then see which are premises leading to others. Seems to me the only language you use is that of wishful thinking.
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If you need clarification, I will clarify. Otherwise, just let Boru talk.
RE: The witness argument (yet again, I know, I know)
June 10, 2018 at 7:48 pm
(This post was last modified: June 10, 2018 at 7:51 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Silence infidels!
 No one here needs clarity but you. The reason that appeals to consequence don;t work..is that they only tell us some outcome you'd like to avoid. They don;t actually demonstrate the item in question. They;re even more puerile when, confronted with a "so what" to your consequence...you deny the reality of the consequence you;d just chosen to invoke.' This is idiotic.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
<Yawn> you're getting very boring, MK.
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