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This Is What Happens When You Put An Idiot In Charge of a Complex System
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(July 29, 2018 at 7:07 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: I saw a segment on the news that even farmers who are hurting because of the tariffs still support him.  Not sure how representative that is.  I see that and the tendency of Republicans to believe Trump over other sources of information as different from any anti-intellectual trend.  A couple of things, beyond what you've mentioned.  Trump has a lot of support from religious and conservatively religious voters, and they tend to be poorer, as well as significantly anti-intellectual.  Also, as a mattter of values, conservatives are more group oriented and authoritarian oriented than the left, so they'll prefer in-group to out-group stronger than a hypothetical partisan of the left.

Farmers tend to come from more rural areas and rural areas tend to support republicans.  This doesn't really surprise me.  Unfortunately.  Best chance to get rid of the orange skinned sack of crap is convincing the blue collar factory workers not to vote for him and I think that's working better.
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There is no point in trying to reason with the trumptards.  They are hopeless.

The solution is to get the people who didn't vote for one reason or another last time off their asses on election day.  Especially the ones who convinced themselves that there was "no difference" between Hillary and the WLB.
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(July 29, 2018 at 11:36 am)Minimalist Wrote: There is no point in trying to reason with the trumptards.  They are hopeless.

The solution is to get the people who didn't vote for one reason or another last time off their asses on election day.  Especially the ones who convinced themselves that there was "no difference" between Hillary and the WLB.

I wouldn't say there's no difference between Hillary and Tinyhands McPussygrabbin, but I do think Hillary is part of an alarming trend I've seen in the democratic party.  They've been so willing and eager to compromise and negotiate and find a middle ground with republicans that they've been steadily pushing the democratic party further and further to the right.  I've watched this happen for the past 20 years and it's gotten damn rare to see the democrats take a strong stance on anything.  The end result seems to be that we have two partys in America: the center-right party and the completely batshit crazy party.  And if we let the trend continue, if we keep moving to the right to appease republicans, where are we going to be?  Are we going to have two parties, both of which are dangerously insane?  Are we going to look back at the Trump presidency and wish politics of our times could be as progressive as that?  Because that's what worries me.

Sure, in the general election, I'll support Hillary.  If I were in a battleground state, I would have unquestionably voted for her.  But the rest of the time, I'm pushing for change within the DNC.
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Nothing wrong with pushing for change.  In fact it is what the democrats need.

But some of these fools really think Hillary would be blowing Putin right now.
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The change the race to the middle has been promoting is the change we see today.  Food for thought.
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