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I Would Expect Arizona To Lead The Way
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(June 20, 2018 at 3:26 pm)henryp Wrote: What is the conclusion you came to based on your observation cops sometimes abuse people that are detained?  We know what you don't want them doing.  How should they be handling it? 
Less beatey, less rapey, less kidnappy.  

Quote:Just let the kids roam free in an open field while processing them? 
You mean..like at a park..like all the rest of our kids?  Yeah...that would be fantastic.  

Quote:Don't detain anyone, and let them all in? 
Sure.  It;s not like we -have- to imprison people while we process their applications for citizenship or asylum. I know, I know "hurr durr theyre criminals! criminal aliens!" Yeah....so, if I ended up indefinitely detained and lost my kids because of a misdemeanor.......we might start thinking there was something wrong in the world.

Quote:There is a practical problem with a limited number of solutions. 
Costs more to jail em than it would to put em up at a hotel. Or..gasp, let them get jobs and add to our gdp.
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I for one would be in favor of an open border with Mexico. The objections to Mexican immigration are largely based on prejudice and myth.
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(June 20, 2018 at 3:26 pm)henryp Wrote:
(June 20, 2018 at 2:59 pm)Chad32 Wrote: Because our law enforcement has such a great track record of treating people in cages well. There aren't any stories about people dying in a cell from a medical emergency or dehydration as cops watch on, right?


What is the conclusion you came to based on your observation cops sometimes abuse people that are detained?  We know what you don't want them doing.  How should they be handling it?  Just let the kids roam free in an open field while processing them?  Don't detain anyone, and let them all in?  There is a practical problem with a limited number of solutions.  And most people find all of the solutions unacceptable, which is a luxury of being a random person on the internet.

Canada, for example, let's the parents choose whether or not their kid goes to foster care or stays in immigration jail with them.  Although, it's been reported that they promote foster care, as jailing children, apparently, isn't healthy for kids psychologically either.

Keep them with their parents above all else, because it's kind of creepy to take a kid away from their mother. Whatever else you do with them is beside the point.

Canada is different. Or should I ask Min to do some research on Fucking Canada Cops, eh?
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Yeah, if we make it a felony, then we're justified in separating children from their parents; right and wrong can be had from the tip of a pen.
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Lol you would love to make it a felony wouldn't you  Dodgy

(June 20, 2018 at 4:32 pm)Chad32 Wrote:
(June 20, 2018 at 3:26 pm)henryp Wrote: What is the conclusion you came to based on your observation cops sometimes abuse people that are detained?  We know what you don't want them doing.  How should they be handling it?  Just let the kids roam free in an open field while processing them?  Don't detain anyone, and let them all in?  There is a practical problem with a limited number of solutions.  And most people find all of the solutions unacceptable, which is a luxury of being a random person on the internet.

Canada, for example, let's the parents choose whether or not their kid goes to foster care or stays in immigration jail with them.  Although, it's been reported that they promote foster care, as jailing children, apparently, isn't healthy for kids psychologically either.

Keep them with their parents above all else, because it's kind of creepy to take a kid away from their mother. Whatever else you do with them is beside the point.

Canada is different. Or should I ask Min to do some research on Fucking Canada Cops, eh?
Oh no we have some highly questionable practices to .
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I'd be content just charging them with kidnapping. If detention centers are bad enough on adults that people wouldn't want to subject children to it, then maybe we should look at improving detention centers.
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(June 20, 2018 at 5:42 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: Yeah, if we make it a felony, then we're justified in separating children from their parents; right and wrong can be had from the tip of a pen.
There are alternate solutions.  The illegal aliens could go to Costa Rica, Panama, or some other country, like Vatican City.  They don't have to come to the US.  Or they could overthrow their governments and run a better operation.

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