Bashing God for the Misery of Life

[The Grand Nudger]

I feel ya.  Here we are trying to turn this into something that makes sense, lol......betya a dollar that only lasts as long as it take for Atlas to come back and insist that holding a god accountable for it;s actions is some sort of hedonist endeavor, lol.

[robvalue]

Yeah, I really don't get where he's going with any of this. He seems to spend the whole time making excuses for his blatantly abusive partner. I don't know why us putting the blame where it deserves to be bothers him so much. He's going to go to paradise to spend forever with this horrible monster, which is apparently a good thing, and we're going to get tortured or whatever. The particular way in which we piss off this tyrant doesn't matter too much, does it?

This is of course assuming this lunatic God actually does what it promises, or is even capable of it. No reason to assume either of those.

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PS: I feel like he finds life as horrible as I do, and is trying to reconcile that with his faith. I at least have the advantage of not having to make excuses for someone I think is causing all my suffering.

[Drich]

Is god not responsible for life?  Does anything in life happen that isn;t the will of your god?  Disbelief isn;t the reason that anyone puts your god on the hook for all that business..(and yeah, while were at it spare a thought for the spiders too..just one more species allah is rawdogging).  Belief is what does that.  If what you believe about god were true, he would be detestable.

according to what arbitrary standard? you've got to have SOME sense that your standards are as foolish to a North korean as His standards are to you. Now set in side his country who are you to say his standards are foolish? 

If what we believe about God to be true than are we not in his country? then again who's standards do you use to judge God?

[The Grand Nudger]

How many different threads do you want to discuss your moral and ethical bankruptcy in, as compared to my possessing standards?

[Drich]

When it comes to disbelieve, emotions play a very big role, the subconscious too, in that regard disbelief can be an angry reaction for someone's life conditions or misery in life.

Take the example of a sick person. The disease ate their body, and they see the whole world living it up while they are stuck in their bed or chair. Disbelief becomes more reasonable way to satisfy the anger.

Bashing "God" for the misery of the day seems like the perfect scapegoat. But aren't we ignoring the fact, that our existence here might not be for pleasure?

In other words; who said that we should enjoy this life? who said that we must satisfy the stereotype and live the predefined role dictated by the society?

Other organisms have it worse; I mean look at bugs, look at a roach being eaten by ants, or a spider with broken legs at your bathroom.

I wouldn't bash God, I would bash life.

I have found most non believers tried to bargain with God as some point sometimes for something like a girlfriend other time it was for something serious like cancer. ultamitly whatever the case was the unbeliver rubbed the lamp, no genie appeared and the wish went unfulfilled.

Now just imagine your picture of God IF he had indeed appeared out of a lamp and granted you wish after wish.

Who then in that senerio would be the servant and who would be the master?

So why then do you think God does not grant wishes?

Understand there is a vast difference between prayer and petition/wishing 99.9% of you has no clue as to how to pray especially if you think a wishing cermony can be included ina formal prayer.

Again if you are throwing wishes at God day in and day out and he does not want to be treated as a genie, why do you think He does not verify himself to you by granting your wishes?

[The Grand Nudger]

What would the point in bargaining with a god be?  It;s gonna do what its gonna do..just like it did whatever it did.  Nothing I can do about that, but nothing can change it;s accountability for it, either.

as for this..

So why then do you think God does not grant wishes?

I;ve got a real simple answer to that question, lol...but you might want to confer with your fellow believers..because they;re the only people contending that he does.

[Angrboda]

I have found most non believers tried to bargain with God as some point sometimes for something like a girlfriend other time it was for something serious like cancer. ultamitly whatever the case was the unbeliver rubbed the lamp, no genie appeared and the wish went unfulfilled.

You're well known for believing things that aren't true. This just becomes yet another in a long line of bullshit claims from you.

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If this is a simulation, I suspect it's most likely something they do for entertainment; we're the galactic comedy hour.

[sdelsolray]

When it comes to disbelieve, emotions play a very big role, the subconscious too, in that regard disbelief can be an angry reaction for someone's life conditions or misery in life.

Take the example of a sick person. The disease ate their body, and they see the whole world living it up while they are stuck in their bed or chair. Disbelief becomes more reasonable way to satisfy the anger.

Bashing "God" for the misery of the day seems like the perfect scapegoat. But aren't we ignoring the fact, that our existence here might not be for pleasure?

In other words; who said that we should enjoy this life? who said that we must satisfy the stereotype and live the predefined role dictated by the society?

Other organisms have it worse; I mean look at bugs, look at a roach being eaten by ants, or a spider with broken legs at your bathroom.

I wouldn't bash God, I would bash life.

There are more than two choices.  For example, I choose to live for many things, including happiness, purpose, reproduction, education, exploration, among other things, as well as pleasure.

I fail to see how your description of "disbelief" in a particular sky fairy is relevant to the question.  Please study the concept of non-sequitur.

[*Deidre*]

Well, to be fair, atheists are indifferent about God. They usually don’t bash an entity that they don’t believe exists in the first place.

[The Valkyrie]

If there is no god, blaming it for things is pointless.

If there is a god, it can change what happens in the world and is DIRECTLY responsible for the actions of it’s followers, whether those actions are good or bad.

Free will is a weak excuse in the latter case.