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That's odd...I thought we were a nation of laws?

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That's odd...I thought we were a nation of laws?
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That's odd...I thought we were a nation of laws?
June 24, 2018 at 7:09 pm (This post was last modified: June 24, 2018 at 7:16 pm by GODZILLA.)
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RE: That's odd...I thought we were a nation of laws?
June 24, 2018 at 7:10 pm
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RE: That's odd...I thought we were a nation of laws?
June 24, 2018 at 7:17 pm
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RE: That's odd...I thought we were a nation of laws?
June 24, 2018 at 7:18 pm
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RE: That's odd...I thought we were a nation of laws?
June 25, 2018 at 12:03 am
The same people who will argue that rights are 'god given' will argue that people not born in the US don't deserve those 'god given' rights.  Funny how that works.
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RE: That's odd...I thought we were a nation of laws?
June 25, 2018 at 12:11 am
(June 25, 2018 at 12:03 am)Cecelia Wrote: The same people who will argue that rights are 'god given' will argue that people not born in the US don't deserve those 'god given' rights.  Funny how that works.

Really? I don’t know anyone who argues that!
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RE: That's odd...I thought we were a nation of laws?
June 25, 2018 at 12:46 am
(June 25, 2018 at 12:11 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote:
(June 25, 2018 at 12:03 am)Cecelia Wrote: The same people who will argue that rights are 'god given' will argue that people not born in the US don't deserve those 'god given' rights.  Funny how that works.

Really?   I don’t know anyone who argues that!

You must not get out much.
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June 25, 2018 at 2:01 am
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RE: That's odd...I thought we were a nation of laws?
June 25, 2018 at 9:04 am (This post was last modified: June 25, 2018 at 9:10 am by RoadRunner79.)
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RE: That's odd...I thought we were a nation of laws?
June 25, 2018 at 9:13 am
(June 25, 2018 at 9:04 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote:
(June 25, 2018 at 12:46 am)Losty Wrote: You must not get out much.

I like to think that I expose myself to varying points of view (I'm here aren't I).

However I don't see people saying that those outside of the U.S.  don't deserve those rights described in the constitution as inalienable and given by creator.   The very phrasing, is meant to describe something which is not given by, but only recognized by the governing body.  

We can talk about immigration policy, and if they should be changed.  I don't think that unrestricted immigration is a good idea, and that we should have laws concerning immigration (most countries I believe do).  And really what is being talked about is those who circumvent proper immigration procedures.   I would say that for the majority of people, it is dishonest to try to ascribe to them, that having immigration restrictions as equal to them saying that others don't deserve basic human rights.  If you are arguing that these countries are such shit holes, then do you think that those left in those countries don't deserve these rights as well? Should we start over throwing governments in these places?
I'm not trying to be a douche, but that was sort of the argument for holding people indefinitely without trial at Guantanamo Bay and Abu Graibh. Of course, that wasn't enough so they had to go with the enemy combatants thing.
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