Josephus and other contemporaries on Jesus

[Minimalist]

RR trots out his big guns.....Wiki.  Well, no surprise there.  A bunch of apologetic horseshit.  Its okay, RR.  I understand.  You are terrified of accidentally learning that you have been spoonfed bullshit all your life.  At least you didn't revert to Timmy the Phony Atheist.

[Amarok]

RR trots out his big guns.....Wiki.  Well, no surprise there.  A bunch of apologetic horseshit.  Its okay, RR.  I understand.  You are terrified of accidentally learning that you have been spoonfed bullshit all your life.  At least you didn't revert to Timmy the Phony Atheist.

Pretty much

[Fake Messiah]

...What type of evidence would you accept or expect?  Perhaps your expectations are unrealistic.

Remember that time when zombies attacked the Roman empire and everyone else forgot to document it? The Bible is on it! Matthew 27:52-53

[Amarok]

[Minimalist]

What is most interesting about Paulkovich's work is that he generally lists only the works we now have in whole or in part.  Hold that thought.  Now a 9th century Bishop of Constantinople by the name of Photius read a history by a man named Justus of Tiberias and reported on it.  His report essentially says that Justus, despite living in Galilee in the first century and fighting in the Great Revolt, nonetheless never heard of jesus.  We no longer have Justus' history as the scribes who worked for Photius apparently saw no reason to preserve something that did not sustain their bullshit.  In that sense, perhaps we owe Eusebius a debt of gratitude for phonying up Josephus' work so that xtian scribes had an incentive to preserve Josephus' writings.  But it is still a forgery.

Now, we will never know how many books failed to survive the fires in the libraries burned by xtian thugs.  That 126 must represent a pitiful percentage of the written history of the Greco-Roman world.  But it was xtians who did the copying during the Dark Ages or the Byzantine period and if there had been anything more relevant to be saved for posterity they would have done it.

[Amarok]

What is most interesting about Paulkovich's work is that he generally lists only the works we now have in whole or in part.  Hold that thought.  Now a 9th century Bishop of Constantinople by the name of Photius read a history by a man named Justus of Tiberias and reported on it.  His report essentially says that Justus, despite living in Galilee in the first century and fighting in the Great Revolt, nonetheless never heard of jesus.  We no longer have Justus' history as the scribes who worked for Photius apparently saw no reason to preserve something that did not sustain their bullshit.  In that sense, perhaps we owe Eusebius a debt of gratitude for phonying up Josephus' work so that xtian scribes had an incentive to preserve Josephus' writings.  But it is still a forgery.

Now, we will never know how many books failed to survive the fires in the libraries burned by xtian thugs.  That 126 must represent a pitiful percentage of the written history of the Greco-Roman world.  But it was xtians who did the copying during the Dark Ages or the Byzantine period and if there had been anything more relevant to be saved for posterity they would have done it.

Good point

Ultimately theists and their apologist allies don't like the argument from silence because they know it's a serious issue so they try and pull false equivalencies or downplay it to lower the standards of evidence so they can shove their god man into legit history

[Jehanne]

[Amarok]

[RoadRunner79]

[Amarok]

To which methods or principles do you refer?

Jehanne made that pretty clear 

Nice dodge