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RE: Realistically can anything be done regarding Trumps nomination?
July 10, 2018 at 1:40 am
(July 10, 2018 at 1:21 am)AFTT47 Wrote: After Trump's election and Brexit, I believe the USA and UK have have ceased to be credible world leaders. I hope the EU rises up and takes up the slack. Somebody needs to. No no no, don;t worry. Russia and China have totally got this. 
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RE: Realistically can anything be done regarding Trumps nomination?
July 10, 2018 at 1:45 am
(July 10, 2018 at 1:40 am)Khemikal Wrote: (July 10, 2018 at 1:21 am)AFTT47 Wrote: After Trump's election and Brexit, I believe the USA and UK have have ceased to be credible world leaders. I hope the EU rises up and takes up the slack. Somebody needs to. No no no, don;t worry. Russia and China have totally got this. Won't that be fun
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RE: Realistically can anything be done regarding Trumps nomination?
July 10, 2018 at 4:02 pm
Um . . .
the dems could win a heap of state legislative seats, governorships, Senate and House races and pass and have the required number of states approve some constitutional amendments . . . .
If I'm not mistaken, that is how the system is supposed to work.
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RE: Realistically can anything be done regarding Trumps nomination?
July 10, 2018 at 4:09 pm
A well timed airstrike?
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RE: Realistically can anything be done regarding Trumps nomination?
July 10, 2018 at 8:28 pm
(July 9, 2018 at 9:47 pm)Libertarian God Wrote: It's funny how he picked someone that has declared Roe v. Wade as being binding. However, this is the guy who believes the president is above the law. He basically got himself a get of a jail free card. I fear there really is nothing to do. Democrats don't have enough sway in D.C. Now there are two Republican women who are pro-choice, but I doubt they would vote against a Republican nomination.
Unless the Democrats manage to find (or manufacture) dirt in the guy's past, no.
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RE: Realistically can anything be done regarding Trumps nomination?
July 11, 2018 at 10:49 am
Call me old fashioned, but I'd dearly love to hear a reason or two with some actual merit.
Like:
Kavanaugh paid someone else to take his tests for him while he was in law school
or he hired an undocumented person as a nanny or house keeper
or he has an unsecured email server in a truckstop restroom in Kalispell Montana
or he's sending Anthony Weiner dick pics to 13 year olds
or he's on the Clinton Enemies List
or his IT guy was caught at the airport trying to escape to Pakistan with a treasure trove of purloined files
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RE: Realistically can anything be done regarding Trumps nomination?
July 11, 2018 at 11:20 am
The GOP wasn't supposed to deny Obama his pick, which was really the voter's pick because we elected him. GOP wants to play dirty? We should hand it right back to them.
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RE: Realistically can anything be done regarding Trumps nomination?
July 11, 2018 at 12:27 pm
(July 9, 2018 at 9:47 pm)Libertarian God Wrote: I fear there really is nothing to do. Democrats don't have enough sway in D.C. Now there are two Republican women who are pro-choice, but I doubt they would vote against a Republican nomination.
Worst case scenario is all Republicans and the red-state Democrats vote to approve the nomination.
Best case scenario is the Democrats stick together and Collins and Murkowski jump ship because of the choice issue and Trump does what Obama refused to do and appoints his pick anyway.
IOW, I don't think there's any positive outcome in this situation.
That's not to say that I think people should stop protesting the situation or stop pointing out Republican hypocrisy about the "no appointments in a voting year" issue. They changed the rules, they have the responsibility to follow those new rules. But they won't.
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RE: Realistically can anything be done regarding Trumps nomination?
July 11, 2018 at 12:40 pm
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(July 10, 2018 at 1:45 am)Tizheruk Wrote: (July 10, 2018 at 1:40 am)Khemikal Wrote: No no no, don;t worry. Russia and China have totally got this. Won't that be fun
Yes, what could two authoritarian states do to our western values? I say we give up and let Putin and Communism fuck us up the ass.
The absurdity of it all is that Trump supporters think he is defending western democracy when it is clear he is doing everything to mimic the very same behaviors of their leadership.
(July 10, 2018 at 4:02 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: Um . . .
the dems could win a heap of state legislative seats, governorships, Senate and House races and pass and have the required number of states approve some constitutional amendments . . . .
If I'm not mistaken, that is how the system is supposed to work.
Going through congress is certainly a more ideal way, putting more in than the other through voting. Yes, but the founders thought about the "what ifs" to prevent the erosion on checks on power.
That is why even with the SCOTUS future judges can over turn prior SCOTUS rulings. It is also why impeachment, which is not ideal, still has to be a tool just in case you put a nut in office.
We are a constitutional republic, not a pure democracy, a democracy yes, but not mob rule by vote. It is a false notion to claim closed states like China or Iran do not have elections, they do. But they do not have the amount of safety nets to prevent one family or one party dictating to everyone.
Oversight of power is what prevents us from looking like Putin's Russia or Iran's theocracy.
Our system of checks on power, and separation of power includes impeachment. The problem "majority rules" is that majority can be abusive too and anyone who has lived in a place where dissent is not tolerated can tell you what not being in that majority is like.
You use congress to foster overlap, you use courts and congress to force the president to stay on a leash. Take away that oversight you end up with a bad authoritarian dictator and or one party state.
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RE: Realistically can anything be done regarding Trumps nomination?
July 11, 2018 at 2:06 pm
(July 10, 2018 at 4:02 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: Um . . .
the dems could win a heap of state legislative seats, governorships, Senate and House races and pass and have the required number of states approve some constitutional amendments . . . .
If I'm not mistaken, that is how the system is supposed to work.
That's how the system is supposed to work. But it doesn't seem to really work that way much these days. The last amendment was 26 years ago and that one was originally proposed in 1789. And other than acts to reauthorize existing spending programs and rename post offices, congress hasn't really gotten much done in recent years. The systems is more or less broken I'm afraid.
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