Great Businessman My Ass.

[Minimalist]

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/07/trump-u...ns-report/

Trump using Scotland visit to promote his golf course — which is losing millions: report

Financial records show that the president’s Trump Turnberry resort has lost money since the New York City real estate mogul purchased the golf course in 2014.

“In fact, the Turnberry operation has lost tens of millions of pounds since he purchased it, filings in Britain show: about £17 million in 2016, the last year for which such comprehensive records are available,” the Times reported.

Douchebag.

[Crossless2.0]

Who would have thought that trying to make money while being one of the most despised of public douchebags could be so complicated?

It's a shame that most of the morons who voted for him couldn't afford a fucking golfing vacation in Scotland if their lives depended on it.

[Amarok]

Remember this was a man who failed at running a casino and couldn't sell steak .

[Crossless2.0]

Remember this was a man who failed at running a casino and couldn't sell steak .

Yes, uniquely useless.

So, of course, he was a perfectly obvious choice to lead the United States. I'd wonder how such a person could get elected, but then I remember that there are still three-card Monte scammers fleecing rubes.

[The Industrial Atheist]

Remember this was a man who failed at running a casino and couldn't sell steak .

Yes, uniquely useless.

So, of course, he was a perfectly obvious choice to lead the United States. I'd wonder how such a person could get elected, but then I remember that there are still three-card Monty scammers fleecing rubes.

Hell even if he was a good businessman, it would barely matter. You can't "run the country like  a business." Even just the financial aspect of that doesn't make sense, because it's not nearly as simple as balance sheets.

He won because he's way better at marketing in a political sense. That and gerrymandering. Hatred of non-whites and the poor played  a role, more than usual maybe.
Of course most of the people that hate the poor were poor themselves. That's the giant joke they aren't in on.

[Brian37]

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/07/trump-u...ns-report/

Trump using Scotland visit to promote his golf course — which is losing millions: report

Financial records show that the president’s Trump Turnberry resort has lost money since the New York City real estate mogul purchased the golf course in 2014.

“In fact, the Turnberry operation has lost tens of millions of pounds since he purchased it, filings in Britain show: about £17 million in 2016, the last year for which such comprehensive records are available,” the Times reported.

Douchebag.

He is still rich, but like a mobster, not someone who is doing business ethically.

Golf course owners in general own them as a status symbol, not a money maker. I'd worry more about the fact he has violated the emolument's clause along with his own family. I'd worry about the fact he got elected with all other failed businesses and his "university".

His ability to get away with murder at a financial scale started with Reagan's age of deregulation. It is why no energy company CEO has gone to prison for dumping coal ash and Genex in water supplies. It is why the Wells Fargo CEO only got a slap on the wrist.

The new western economy model is let the rich gamble and make everyone else pay when they lose. It is simply worse that that mindset is holding our highest office.

[Minimalist]

Agreed.  Reagan turned the nation into a Plutokleptocracy.  Rule by rich thieves.

[Brian37]

Agreed.  Reagan turned the nation into a Plutokleptocracy.  Rule by rich thieves.

I hate the false slur that if you support the left, you hate wealth. I know that is not what you mean by this. But, whenever the left criticizes wealth we falsely get accused of wanting a communist state. If anyone using that bullshit argument thinks that China's communist leaders are dirt poor, they are morons. What I hate is abuse of power and monopolies of power. But the truth is with both friend and foe alike, all nations partake in a global market. 

Influence takes resources and all power seeks resources, so the issue isn't all wealth or no wealth, but balance. Right now the global rich are abusing their power.

[Minimalist]

Too naive, Brian.




I'd say that in the past they were less obnoxious about trying to grind the poor and middle class into the ground but that is not true, either.  The Robber Barons of the late 19th century were every bit as bad as the corporate scum we have running the show now.

The vast individual and corporate fortunes, the vast combinations of capital which have marked the development of our industrial system, create new conditions, and necessitate a change from the old attitude of the state and the nation toward property... More and more it is evident that the State and if necessary the nation, has got to possess the right of supervision and control as regards the great corporations which are its creatures.

– Theodore Roosevelt, 1901

[Brian37]

Too naive, Brian.




I'd say that in the past they were less obnoxious about trying to grind the poor and middle class into the ground but that is not true, either.  The Robber Barons of the late 19th century were every bit as bad as the corporate scum we have running the show now.

The vast individual and corporate fortunes, the vast combinations of capital which have marked the development of our industrial system, create new conditions, and necessitate a change from the old attitude of the state and the nation toward property... More and more it is evident that the State and if necessary the nation, has got to possess the right of supervision and control as regards the great corporations which are its creatures.

– Theodore Roosevelt, 1901

Minn, "Capitalism" is not a form of government. China allows private business too. Gadaffi was a billionaire who owned stock in General Electric. Fidel Castro had an estimated wealth of 800 million. 

But sorry, we are mostly on the same page on just about every issue. I don't see how you can end the global market. Humans compete over resources and power, so I find it absurd to suggest that you can end the global market or the private sector on a planet of 7 billion. What you can do if you raise your voice is insist on anti monopoly concepts. But the end of the private sector really would only concentrate wealth to the fewer.

I value my ability to buy a burger 1 day, and a pizza another, and I love my beer. All those things are made by private companies. 

What I do not love, is the amount of power corporations have currently. But why should I condemn a mom and pop shop and lump them in with the bullies? Abuse is what needs to be addressed, monopolies, not wealth itself.