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RE: Is Donald Trump a traitor?!
July 18, 2018 at 1:03 pm
(July 18, 2018 at 11:33 am)Shell B Wrote: (July 18, 2018 at 10:27 am)The Gentleman Bastard Wrote: Ignorance of the law is no excuse. Unless such ignorance stems from some form of mental incapacity.
If the Trumpster is commuting treason, whether he understands it or not, he should be held accountable under the laws of the nation.
I never even hinted that I thought it was an excuse or that he shouldn't be held accountable. I'm merely suggesting that he might be a blumbering idiot more than a calculating mastermind.
He is a master con to his base. He is beyond bumbling as a diplomat. When you attack the press and ignore or attack intel, not only during your run but while in office, REPEATEDLY, you are doing that deliberately. That makes you dangerous, even if you want to call that bumbling. We cannot afford either dangerous or bumbling.
And just today at a cabinet meting, he repeated the same con as he did with Un, he said NK was no longer a danger, only to have his intel say, "No they are still doing it."
The same thing happened with Russia today. Our top intel keeps repeating that they did interfere, now he is claiming Russia has stopped now? He said that just today! Our intel is certainly furious as they should be.
He is playing to his base and sure, it works for him. "Nobody has been tougher on Russia than I have" really? He said in Finland that our intel should investigate theirs and vice versa? That does not sound "tough" that is not just bumbling that is insane and DANGEROUS.
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RE: Is Donald Trump a traitor?!
July 18, 2018 at 1:30 pm
(July 18, 2018 at 12:58 pm)Shell B Wrote: Do you really think actions speak louder than words in global politics? If you speak like you're on Russia's side, the whole world will believe it, whether you act on it or not. What he says is very important. I wish Republicans would start listening.
Actually I do. Putting missiles on someone's border is more serious than reassurances you're not going to use them. I'm not saying that talking isnt important, just that people must look beyond what others say and compare that to what they do.
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RE: Is Donald Trump a traitor?!
July 18, 2018 at 1:36 pm
Meh. Trump is just doing what all narcissists do -- try to control and manage the image of themselves in those around them. In Helsinki he was with the Russians, so he tried to please the Russians. Back home he's with Americans, so he's saying things he think will please and appease the Americans. He's nothing but a chameleon, trying to blend in with whomever he's with. It's not criminal. It's just pathetic and stupid. But this is the type of idiot that Republicans thought would be best for our country. To which, all I can say is, Republicans are fucking stupid.
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RE: Is Donald Trump a traitor?!
July 18, 2018 at 1:53 pm
(This post was last modified: July 18, 2018 at 2:02 pm by Mystical.)
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
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RE: Is Donald Trump a traitor?!
July 18, 2018 at 2:07 pm
(July 18, 2018 at 1:30 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: (July 18, 2018 at 12:58 pm)Shell B Wrote: Do you really think actions speak louder than words in global politics? If you speak like you're on Russia's side, the whole world will believe it, whether you act on it or not. What he says is very important. I wish Republicans would start listening.
Actually I do. Putting missiles on someone's border is more serious than reassurances you're not going to use them. I'm not saying that talking isnt important, just that people must look beyond what others say and compare that to what they do.
And people do that, but they will still, and have every right to, judge a sitting president for what he says and how he behaves around other leaders.
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RE: Is Donald Trump a traitor?!
July 18, 2018 at 2:19 pm
(July 18, 2018 at 2:07 pm)Shell B Wrote: (July 18, 2018 at 1:30 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: Actually I do. Putting missiles on someone's border is more serious than reassurances you're not going to use them. I'm not saying that talking isnt important, just that people must look beyond what others say and compare that to what they do.
And people do that, but they will still, and have every right to, judge a sitting president for what he says and how he behaves around other leaders.
Yes, of course. Diplomatic missteps, even grave ones, are not treasonous by definition. When politicians and pundits talk of treason it is simply ideological hyperbole. I do not take it seriously. Nothing Trump said constitutes treason, i.e. giving aid and comfort to an enemy in time of war.
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RE: Is Donald Trump a traitor?!
July 18, 2018 at 2:41 pm
Quote: Actually I do. Putting missiles on someone's border is more serious than reassurances you're not going to use them.
You mean like the missiles we had in Turkey on Russia's border? Probably not. Your kind never sees equivalencies.
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RE: Is Donald Trump a traitor?!
July 18, 2018 at 2:41 pm
(This post was last modified: July 18, 2018 at 2:41 pm by mlmooney89.)
I don't think he is a traitor I just think he is self absorbed and thinks differently than I do. Yes that different opinion is horrible in my mind but it's still just an opinion. I don't think he is literally trying to hurt the USA I think he wants to make it how he thinks it should look.
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RE: Is Donald Trump a traitor?!
July 18, 2018 at 4:12 pm
(This post was last modified: July 18, 2018 at 4:16 pm by Mystical.)
(July 18, 2018 at 10:49 am)mh.brewer Wrote: Is the Kathy Griffin/Trump head becoming less offensive?
..No. That was just dumb. It's only relevant after you dig them out of hidey holes, ya silly mutt!
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Also, they must be brown skinned, it's a racism thing.
Introducing: the Russian Spy who says she's a Russian spy.
I'm starting to think these Russians need to watch all the seasons of "The Americans" to learn how to be Russian spies!
(July 18, 2018 at 2:41 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Quote: Actually I do. Putting missiles on someone's border is more serious than reassurances you're not going to use them.
You mean like the missiles we had in Turkey on Russia's border? Probably not. Your kind never sees equivalencies.
Ummmm... what about putting TANKS in other people's Crimeas?!
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
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RE: Is Donald Trump a traitor?!
July 18, 2018 at 4:18 pm
Putin's Poodle says that's okay so you know that A/M will just goosestep along with the rest of the herd.
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