Why Religion is corrupt (on a personal note)

[LukeMC]

One day I got so sick of a website spamming me I thought about suing them (taking them to court) . I felt really uncomfortable about it, I was unsure what to do. So I prayed about it. I randomly opened my bible, and stuck my finger on a random verse, expecting God to speak to me. My finger rested on the verse "It is wrong for you to take law suits one against another, why not rather allow your self to be defrauded". The verse was clear, so was Gods voice through the bible, no law suit.

Wow, truly moving. In light of this compelling new evidence, could you show me where to sign up for this whole christianity thing?

[bozo]

I suppose i should give you some background information before i begin.

I live in America, full of religious people. I am 17 years old. So, since I'm not yet a legal adult, my parents can still punish me whenever they want, however they want, and for whatever reason they want.

My parents are VERY catholic. I'm an atheist. My parents hate this because I did not continue to believe in the religion of my upbringing (and of course THEIR religion)

I didn't tell my parents about my atheism until about a year...maybe year and a half ago. Of course, they were upset, but still had hopes that I would change my mind. ( they probably prayed that I would to. HA)

So...my mother, being the anal catholic that she is, didn't want to get me any Christmas presents this past year (xmas 2008) because I don't believe so why would I celebrate the birthday of Jesus? (even though he was born in July I'm pretty sure)

Well I understood that, and it was fine by me, but my father decided to get me some things, including a laptop as an early graduation present. My parents knew how bad I wanted one.

Then, about a week after christmas, I have Atheist Forums left up on my laptop. While I was out, my mother came in my room and saw the site. When i got home, my laptop was gone.

These are some of the things my parents said to me:
"I'd rather you be looking at porn than this nonsense"
"You shouldn't be using this computer for things we don't agree with"
"you may as well be going to stabyourparentsintheback.com"
"don't close the door to all the possibilities"
"don't be an idiot"
"this really shows us your lack of maturity"

and so on...

The next day my mother was crying, saying how horrified she was by the path I have chosen, and that she obviously did something wrong, and she just wanted to not have to be a mother anymore. She GROUNDED me, and left the house in tears for a few hours.

I love my mom. but...

I can't believe that she went so crazy and got so upset that I don't believe in a supernatural, all-knowing, all-powerful being that influences my life, that doesn't even exist. She goes mad at the fact that I believe in evolution, natural selection, while she believes in creationism and Noah's arch. She's mad that the "path" I have taken is a logical one, and not an ignorant one.

This is just one personal example on why I believe religion is corrupt.

I love my parents, but I wish they could see things my way sometimes.

WWLD, I agree with your assertion about religion 100%.
Looking on the positive side of a bad situation, isn't it every teenager's obligation to revolt against their parents?
Most do, in your case you actually have something really substantial to rebel about.
More power to you....oh, and welcome to a land where reason rules.

[WWLD]

FutureAndAhope,

Thanks, but no thanks

I really don't understand your reasoning. How is it that reading them those stories would be in any way beneficial to my problem?


I shouldn't have to be sorry for my atheism.

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thanks bozo

[Ace Otana]

There are other examples that I can share that is just a sample. I want to be honest with you, you can either keep rubbling your parents up the wrong way, or you can read them this post and tell them you are sorry for your unbelief.

My parents are atheists too. So are my grand parents and so were my great grand parents. I'm happy to say I come from a long line of atheists.

If I told any of them this what you've put, they would laugh so hard!
Sorry but there are no fools in my family. What you speak of does not contain any reason, evidence or anything scientific and this is why it's rejected.

My family would actually feel sorry for you because you have belief in this. We all think it's total madness. Delusion on it's highest level.

[Rob]

If you really love your parents you should read these true stories to them:
*snip on account of being redundant*

Judging from that post I think we might have ray comfort on our hands.

Your post shows an incredible lack of maturity, integrity, intelligence, understanding, compassion, empathy, morals and rational thinking.

That was fantastic, very poetic. +rep

[WWLD]

Anyway, thank you everyone for all your input. It's greatly appreciated

[FutureAndAHope]

One day I got so sick of a website spamming me I thought about suing them (taking them to court) . I felt really uncomfortable about it, I was unsure what to do. So I prayed about it. I randomly opened my bible, and stuck my finger on a random verse, expecting God to speak to me. My finger rested on the verse "It is wrong for you to take law suits one against another, why not rather allow your self to be defrauded". The verse was clear, so was Gods voice through the bible, no law suit.

Wow, truly moving. In light of this compelling new evidence, could you show me where to sign up for this whole christianity thing?

Maybe you misunderstood it so I wil explain it.

One day I got so sick of a website spamming me I thought about suing them (taking them to court) . I felt really uncomfortable about it, I was unsure what to do. So I prayed about it.

That bit is self explanitry.

I randomly opened my bible, and stuck my finger on a random verse, expecting God to speak to me. My finger rested on the verse "It is wrong for you to take law suits one against another, why not rather allow your self to be defrauded". The verse was clear, so was Gods voice through the bible, no law suit.

I did not search the bible for a verse. I opened it at random... looking away so to speak. So I could not direct the choice. I put my finger on a verse .. again with out looking. Out of all the verses in the bible it opened to one on not taking people to court, which answered my prayer pricisely. The likely hood of this being just a fluke is rediculous. God in his supreme power and wisdom guided my hand to the very verse that could answer my prayer.

It is delusion to think it could some how happen by random chance. It is not me who is delusional it is the teaching and endoctrination of athiesm that is delusional. And if you had a drop of sense you would take these things far more seriously. They are true stories not fairy tales.

[WWLD]

One day I got so sick of a website spamming me I thought about suing them (taking them to court) . I felt really uncomfortable about it, I was unsure what to do. So I prayed about it. I randomly opened my bible, and stuck my finger on a random verse, expecting God to speak to me. My finger rested on the verse "It is wrong for you to take law suits one against another, why not rather allow your self to be defrauded". The verse was clear, so was Gods voice through the bible, no law suit.

Wow, truly moving. In light of this compelling new evidence, could you show me where to sign up for this whole christianity thing?

Maybe you misunderstood it so I wil explain it.

One day I got so sick of a website spamming me I thought about suing them (taking them to court) . I felt really uncomfortable about it, I was unsure what to do. So I prayed about it.

That bit is self explanitry.

I randomly opened my bible, and stuck my finger on a random verse, expecting God to speak to me. My finger rested on the verse "It is wrong for you to take law suits one against another, why not rather allow your self to be defrauded". The verse was clear, so was Gods voice through the bible, no law suit.

I did not search the bible for a verse. I opened it at random... looking away so to speak. So I could not direct the choice. I put my finger on a verse .. again with out looking. Out of all the verses in the bible it opened to one on not taking people to court, which answered my prayer pricisely. The likely hood of this being just a fluke is rediculous. God in his supreme power and wisdom guided my hand to the very verse that could answer my prayer.

It is delusion to think it could some how happen by random chance. It is not me who is delusional it is the teaching and endoctrination of athiesm that is delusional. And if you had a drop of sense you would take these things far more seriously. They are true stories not fairy tales.

It is delusion to think it could somehow happen by random chance?

I disagree. It's delusional to instantly assume this was caused by divine intervention.

By the way, you spelled atheism wrong.

[Demonaura]

Do you want me to explain a perfectly natural way you found that verse? It's not an automatic truth of the world but, unlike certain groups I don't claim to know everything.

Your mind is more powerful that you think, and can process immense ammounts of information. You going to that verse was no different from me grabbing my D&D book and thinking "I really need to remember that rule about acrobatics checks" and flipping right to that page. OR me yelling 15 as I roll and landing on a 15 with my die.

You can subconsiously predict a baseballs flight path, determining exactly the ammount of force you need to put into it at exactly which angle to get it directly into the catchers mit.

You can do complex mathematics in seconds, listen to several conversations at once and interpret an absolutely amazing ammount of signals from all five of your senses.

With all this is it really THAT surprising you were able you find a verse that was somehow related to what was going on in your head?

And I didn't even touch the fact that a personfinds patterns even if there are none. You could have found pretty much ANY verse and found SOME relevance. Astrolology proves this but, I'll leave this reply for another poster.

[Kyuuketsuki]

I dont get into it with them I let them make their own discoveries and decide for themselves.

I approached it slightly differently in that I played devil's advocate, whenever one of my kids would say something pro or anti religious I'd say there were others who believed differently ... IOW I've tried to open their minds to all views so they can make up their own minds. Most of all (once they had decided they were atheists) I've stressed that if they are atheist they need to know why because at some point someone will come at them and they will have to defend themselves (even if it's only by laughing at the silly wingnuts).

One thing I will say though ... it wouldn't stop me loving them or helping them any way I can but I would be disappointed if any of my kids turned out to be religious.

Kyu

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There are other examples that I can share that is just a sample. I want to be honest with you, you can either keep rubbling your parents up the wrong way, or you can read them this post and tell them you are sorry for your unbelief.

Why the hell should anyone apologise for not believing in fairy tales? That's really, really stupid.

Kyu

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I love my parents, but I wish they could see things my way sometimes

Leah,

Although I'm an ex-Catholic my parents did their best to bring up all 4 of us to be open minded and, although it was a shock for my Dad (in particular) to discover none of us believed they lived with it ... it just wasn't that big an issue. My Dad stopped going regularly to church although he remained Catholic until his death 20 years ago.

My mum reverted back to Church of England (she'd had to convert to marry my Dad) and she is difficult to talk to about religion, seems to think I'm somehow broken because I don't believe and I think she thinks I will one day believe again when I've outgrown this "foolishness" ... I find that rather amusing but I still love my Mum (and my dear departed Dad) and don't have any other real issues with her.

Kyu