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Is Harassment of Public Figures Acceptable: Your Sincere Opinion
August 7, 2018 at 12:26 pm
(This post was last modified: August 7, 2018 at 3:00 pm by Neo-Scholastic.
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More and more some political activists feel it is acceptable, even necessary, to harass public figures while those public figures are peaceably going about their daily lives. Most recently, Candace Owens:
HERE
This appears to be at least tangentally related to Maxine Waters's agitating her supporters:
HERE
There seems to be some dispute about whether or not Sarah Huckabee Sanders was actually harassed out of the Red Hen resturant, but it is clearly a fact that at least one prominent member of the press, Jennifer Rubin, has recommended that public figures be hounded for life:
HERE
Personally, I do not know of any prominent conservatives agitating protesters or liberal public figures that have been intimidated publically, or notable conservative pundits defending such behavior. Maybe some of the more left-leaning AF members could provide some examples to further the conversation.
Similarly, it seems speaking engagements by conservatives such as Ben Shapiro are routinely accompanied by large crowds of protesters, attempting to shut down the venues, and many turn violent. Again I am not aware of similar occurrences when the speakers are left-leaning. Again examples that further the conversation are welcome.
And I would be remiss if I did not mention the violent events inspired by left-wing rhetoric like the attempted assassination attempt on Republican congressmen while playing softball HERE, the and the attack on the Alliance Defending Freedom HERE
Just to be clear, I don't want to assume that all political violence comes from the left, it is just that prominent left-wing pundits, journalists and politicians claim that Trump's rhetoric inspires violence. I simply have not seen evidence that that is the case whereas the examples I provided above seems to suggest just the opposite.
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RE: Is Harassment of Public Figures Acceptable: Your Sincere Opinion
August 7, 2018 at 12:28 pm
In a word, "Yes." As long as it is non-violent these cocksuckers who are running the country into the mud should be confronted over it.
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RE: Is Harassment of Public Figures Acceptable: Your Sincere Opinion
August 7, 2018 at 12:31 pm
Let's rewrite this
Is Holding Public Figures Responsible For Willfully Supporting Awful Things In their Capacity As Public Figures Acceptable: Your Sincere Opinion
The answer in that context is yes
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RE: Is Harassment of Public Figures Acceptable: Your Sincere Opinion
August 7, 2018 at 12:31 pm
(August 7, 2018 at 12:28 pm)Minimalist Wrote: In a word, "Yes." As long as it is non-violent these cocksuckers who are running the country into the mud should be confronted over it.
I wouldn't use that word, because the false martyrs will use that to falsely play victim. I do agree that public figures, ESPECIALLY politicians should be confronted.
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RE: Is Harassment of Public Figures Acceptable: Your Sincere Opinion
August 7, 2018 at 1:41 pm
No.
And once indicted after an oft delayed forensic audit, Maxine Waters is going to be screaming SHE'S the one being harassed.
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RE: Is Harassment of Public Figures Acceptable: Your Sincere Opinion
August 7, 2018 at 1:56 pm
How else do you complain?
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RE: Is Harassment of Public Figures Acceptable: Your Sincere Opinion
August 7, 2018 at 2:11 pm
Harassment? Absolutely not. Not of anyone. Same with sexist or racist comments. Not OK.
Insulting? Rude? Showing of contempt? Derision? Disrespect? Yes. Absolutely. All of them. If you want to say Obama was a war mongering, retarded ass clown, that is absolutely within bounds. Want to get on twitter and call Tom Cruise a loon? Fine. Go to an actors site and tell them you didn't like their latest movie? That's ok too. Going to someone's twitter and telling them to kill themselves because they ruined your favorite movie franchise? That's harassment. You crossed the line
That being said, if a person is themselves using bullying behavior, people have a right to stand up to it. Standing up to a bully is not harassment of a bully. Although after seeing how often admins in schools back up the bullies and blame the victims, I see that's a pretty chronic issue in our society. Defending the bully, I mean.
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RE: Is Harassment of Public Figures Acceptable: Your Sincere Opinion
August 7, 2018 at 2:14 pm
(August 7, 2018 at 1:56 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: How else do you complain?
Taking a knee is verboten.
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RE: Is Harassment of Public Figures Acceptable: Your Sincere Opinion
August 7, 2018 at 2:20 pm
My civil side urges me to say that there are many weapons that belong in an activist's arsenal, but harassment of individuals isn't one of them. These people didn't put Trump in charge. Your real problem is with the basket of deplorables. In one sense, the folks listed in the OP are merely doing their jobs. Their personal lives have been affected by professional choices. Part of me says that this isn't right. There ought to be "turf"upon which it is appropriate for activists to fight these battles, and otherwise, these people ought to be left alone.
But in another sense, the choice to be a figure in the public sphere is one that has private consequences. They had to be aware of what they were getting themselves into. Through their work, they affect the private lives of millions; it's a two way street.
If they were to drop out of the public sphere, and dedicate themselves to different pursuits, they would get their privacy back soon enough. So in the end, it's up to them.
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RE: Is Harassment of Public Figures Acceptable: Your Sincere Opinion
August 7, 2018 at 2:23 pm
(This post was last modified: August 7, 2018 at 2:26 pm by Anomalocaris.)
(August 7, 2018 at 12:26 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: More and more some political activists feel it is acceptable, even necessary, to harass public figures while those public figures are peaceably going about their daily lives. Most recently, Candace Owens:
HERE
This appears to be at least tangentally related to Maxine Waters's agitating her supporters:
HERE
There seems to be some dispute about whether or not Sarah Huckabee Sanders was actually harassed out of the Red Hen resturant, but it is clearly a fact that at least one prominent member of the press, Jennifer Rubin, has recommended that public figures be hounded for life:
HERE
Personally, I do not know of any prominent conservatives agitating protesters or liberal public figures that have been intimidated publically, or notable conservative pundits defending such behavior. Maybe some of the more left-leaning AF members could provide some examples to further the conversation.
Similarly, it seems speaking engagements by conservatives such as Ben Shapiro are routinely accompanied by large crowds of protesters, attempting to shut down the venues, and many turn violent. Again I am not aware of similar occurrences when the speakers are left-leaning. Again examples that further the conversation are welcome.
And I would be remiss if I did not mention the violent events inspired by left-wing rhetoric like the attempted assassination attempt on Republican congressmen while playing softball HERE, the and the attack on the Alliance Defending Freedom HERE
Just to be clear, I don't want to assume that all political violence comes from the left, it is just that prominent left-wing pundits, journalists and politicians claim that Trump's rhetoric inspires violence. I simply have not seen evidence that that is the case whereas the examples I provided above seems to suggest just the opposite.
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Is it acceptable to publically harass public figures who so offend decency and so betray the public trust as to actually earn the support of one chad wooters?
The answer is yes.
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