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RE: Is Harassment of Public Figures Acceptable: Your Sincere Opinion
August 7, 2018 at 4:07 pm
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RE: Is Harassment of Public Figures Acceptable: Your Sincere Opinion
August 7, 2018 at 4:44 pm
(August 7, 2018 at 12:26 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: Personally, I do not know of any prominent conservatives agitating protesters or liberal public figures that have been intimidated publically, or notable conservative pundits defending such behavior. Maybe some of the more left-leaning AF members could provide some examples to further the conversation.
My friend, you really are out of touch. You think harassing people is a one sided political behavior? You could easily find it if you bothered to even look. I mean, I'm aware that liberals also engage in terrible behavior. What kind of bubble do you live in where you do not see the other side?
See conservatives harassing actress Kelly Marie Tran off of twitter with their anti-SJW diatribes and telling her to kill herself (and then defending the diatribes by saying, hey, she never said that was why she quit twitter! As if that was a defense of being a bullying asshole).
Jesse Waters of Fox News regularly harassed numerous writers at HuffPo. Even ambushing them.
See Trump himself harassing every famous liberal who has ever spoken publicly about their dislike of him. Even mildly.
Jeesus, basically EVERY conservative pundit right now that defends Trump, is defending someone who regularly harasses and bullies those of his political opposition.
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RE: Is Harassment of Public Figures Acceptable: Your Sincere Opinion
August 7, 2018 at 4:50 pm
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RE: Is Harassment of Public Figures Acceptable: Your Sincere Opinion
August 7, 2018 at 4:51 pm
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RE: Is Harassment of Public Figures Acceptable: Your Sincere Opinion
August 7, 2018 at 4:54 pm
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Quote:Personally, I do not know of any prominent conservatives agitating protesters or liberal public figures that have been intimidated publically, or notable conservative pundits defending such behavior. Maybe some of the more left-leaning AF members could provide some examples to further the conversation.
How about all the times James O'Keefe has done it . But even if we granted your claim it never happens (there are many many many more examples ) That does not invalidate it .
Quote:I thought that there where protests outside of Maxine Waters house?
Even if there was not that's not an argument
Quote:But no, I don’t agree with the types of harassment, intolerance, and violence as a mode of political voice that we seem to be heading to.
Too bad it's none of those things and is a totally valid tactic at holding government officials responsible.
Quote:As I understand him, Plato advocates a kind of benevolent tyranny by an elite class that is at odds with America's founding principle of self-governance, i.e. a republic of the people, as opposed to Philosopher Kings lording over their subjects. Is that truly the direction you believe America should go?
Some needs to read more Plato
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RE: Is Harassment of Public Figures Acceptable: Your Sincere Opinion
August 7, 2018 at 5:09 pm
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(August 7, 2018 at 4:44 pm)Aroura Wrote: (August 7, 2018 at 12:26 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: Personally, I do not know of any prominent conservatives agitating protesters or liberal public figures that have been intimidated publically, or notable conservative pundits defending such behavior. Maybe some of the more left-leaning AF members could provide some examples to further the conversation.
My friend, you really are out of touch. You think harassing people is a one sided political behavior? You could easily find it if you bothered to even look. I mean, I'm aware that liberals also engage in terrible behavior. What kind of bubble do you live in where you do not see the other side?
That's why I'm reaching out to see things from another perspective.
(August 7, 2018 at 4:44 pm)Aroura Wrote: See conservatives harassing actress Kelly Marie Tran off of twitter with their anti-SJW diatribes and telling her to kill herself (and then defending the diatribes by saying, hey, she never said that was why she quit twitter! As if that was a defense of being a bullying asshole).
I guess I'm focusing on direct personal confrontations, not twitter mobs or media attacks. For years and years public figures have received threatening letters and such. Social media diatribes are an awful extension of that. That's an unfortunate part of being a public figure but one that is well known. There are crazy people out there. And I agree, with respect to online verbal attacks and pornshoping, seems to be an equal opportunity plague. It seems though that this kind of direct and coordinated disruption of public servants is different.
(August 7, 2018 at 4:44 pm)Aroura Wrote: Jesse Waters of Fox News regularly harassed numerous writers at HuffPo. Even ambushing them.
Please tell me more. Was he personally ambushed by someone physically popping out from hiding to confront him or are you using ambush figuratively?
(August 7, 2018 at 4:44 pm)Aroura Wrote: See Trump himself harassing every famous liberal who has ever spoken publicly about their dislike of him. Even mildly.
Yes, Trump is the Don Wrinkles of politics. Has he ever called on his supporters to physically pursue his political opponents or justified anyone who had?
(August 7, 2018 at 4:44 pm)Aroura Wrote: Jeesus, basically EVERY conservative pundit right now that defends Trump, is defending someone who regularly harasses and bullies those of his political opposition.
Physically? Intent on pursuing left-leaning public officials and disrupting their private lives? Or are we talking about hyperbolic rhetoric expressed on public platforms. Is there not a difference?
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RE: Is Harassment of Public Figures Acceptable: Your Sincere Opinion
August 7, 2018 at 5:18 pm
I gave a clear example and even if the right was not doing this it does not invalidate it .
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RE: Is Harassment of Public Figures Acceptable: Your Sincere Opinion
August 7, 2018 at 5:19 pm
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RE: Is Harassment of Public Figures Acceptable: Your Sincere Opinion
August 7, 2018 at 5:22 pm
But as i have said it does not matter if the right does it .It does not invalidate it as a tactic .
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RE: Is Harassment of Public Figures Acceptable: Your Sincere Opinion
August 7, 2018 at 5:24 pm
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So if a protester attends a rally intent on heckling, creating a disturbance, attempting to physically assault the president by throwing things at him people should stand-by a watch? I'm not sure if they are truly comparable but certainly worthy of consideration. Thank you for your examples.
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