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The Never-Addressed reasons that lead me to Atheism
#11
RE: The Never-Addressed reasons that lead me to Atheism
Welcome, Chimera7.
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#12
RE: The Never-Addressed reasons that lead me to Atheism
What? Chimera7 you left Christianity? How is that possible when SteveII is constantly claiming that people are more and more converting to Christianity and because of that Christianity is growing? It seems you prove that SteveII is full of doo doo.
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#13
RE: The Never-Addressed reasons that lead me to Atheism
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#14
RE: The Never-Addressed reasons that lead me to Atheism
(August 16, 2018 at 1:01 pm)Chimera7 Wrote: Hey all.
Recently, I put out a video on the reasons that lead me to Atheism... youtube

Quote:How to Know if Your Religion is Real

They are all real.

The first 15 seconds are 'look at me and how cool I am' slaver. Suffice to say, I didn't make it to 16.
It's amazing 'science' always seems to 'find' whatever it is funded for, and never the oppsite. Drich.
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#15
RE: The Never-Addressed reasons that lead me to Atheism
Religions are real. Their gods, not so much.

Welcome aboard, new blood.
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#16
RE: The Never-Addressed reasons that lead me to Atheism
(August 16, 2018 at 4:55 pm)SteveII Wrote:
(August 16, 2018 at 1:01 pm)Chimera7 Wrote: Hey all.

Long time lurker, first time poster. Been wanting to put certain things out into the world recently due to frustrations with the way society is I guess. Despite it likely being in vein, I guess it still feels good to do.

Recently, I put out a video on the reasons that lead me to Atheism. These reasons I've also never seen addressed or even attempted to be refuted by creationists (if anyone has links to some debates id be interested), so I thought i'd share and see what peoples 2 cents was or give value to "new" atheists. I stopped believing in god only about 2 years ago and Im 35. It was a strange feeling, that didn't go away straight away, I'll say that.

Anyway, I hope its ok to share. If not, no worries.

Welcome.

First, there are like 5 billion people in the world that are somewhere between 'atheism' and 'creationism'. Second, from what I heard, your objections are...well...softballs. Mainly consisting on non-specific skepticism, mischaracterizations, or question begging reasoning.

I look forward to you giving one of your arguments a try.

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#17
RE: The Never-Addressed reasons that lead me to Atheism
Welcome! And welcome to reality!

I watched your video.

Overall, it's pretty good.

My only comments are, you seem to be equating all theists with the rejection of evolution. When debating theists, you have to watch this sort of thing, because plenty of theists accept evolution.

Also, even though most atheists understand the reason for, "we are all atheists with regards to all the same gods, except we take it one god further" type of argument, theists are quite unimpressed by it.

In other words, when getting into a debate with a theist, it is best ask them what they believe, and (most importantly) why they believe it. Let them define their gods, before arguing against their position. You don't want to erect any straw men. You might find yourself arguing against a god they don't believe in.

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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#18
RE: The Never-Addressed reasons that lead me to Atheism
Common misconception.  Plenty of theists accept evolution™.  Which sounds like evolution, but will be rife with caveats and novel use of common seeming language. Wink
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#19
RE: The Never-Addressed reasons that lead me to Atheism
In courts you have to present physical evidence, otherwise you will lose the case. It's the same thing here - without physical evidence all you are left with is speculation or guesses. Speculations and guesses doesn't do anything than waste time.
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#20
RE: The Never-Addressed reasons that lead me to Atheism
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