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The Never-Addressed reasons that lead me to Atheism
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RE: The Never-Addressed reasons that lead me to Atheism
August 18, 2018 at 5:31 pm
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RE: The Never-Addressed reasons that lead me to Atheism
August 19, 2018 at 12:19 pm
(August 18, 2018 at 4:46 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Common misconception.  Plenty of theists accept evolution™.  Which sounds like evolution, but will be rife with caveats and novel use of common seeming language.  Wink

They accept it, but don't properly understand it.
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RE: The Never-Addressed reasons that lead me to Atheism
August 20, 2018 at 12:02 pm
(August 19, 2018 at 12:19 pm)robvalue Wrote:
(August 18, 2018 at 4:46 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Common misconception.  Plenty of theists accept evolution™.  Which sounds like evolution, but will be rife with caveats and novel use of common seeming language.  Wink

They accept it, but don't properly understand it.

Dr. Francis Collins and Dr. Ken Miller understand evolution probably better than anyone here on this forum, and they are both practicing Christians. And I don't think their acceptance is rife with caveats, or using novel definitions of common language.

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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RE: The Never-Addressed reasons that lead me to Atheism
August 20, 2018 at 2:49 pm
Really? Hmm. Fair enough! Most Christians I've encountered don't properly understand it, I should have said.
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RE: The Never-Addressed reasons that lead me to Atheism
August 20, 2018 at 2:51 pm (This post was last modified: August 20, 2018 at 2:58 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(August 20, 2018 at 12:02 pm)Simon Moon Wrote:
(August 19, 2018 at 12:19 pm)robvalue Wrote: They accept it, but don't properly understand it.

Dr. Francis Collins and Dr. Ken Miller understand evolution probably better than anyone here on this forum, and they are both practicing Christians. And I don't think their acceptance is rife with caveats, or using novel definitions of common language.

Two does not a plenty make.  Wink

I wish that plenty would follow their lead..but, to the plenty, those guys are heretics.

Though...on that note......

Quote:EXPLOREFAITH: You have said that DNA is “God’s language.” Do you mean that in a literal, or more metaphorical, sense?

FRANCIS COLLINS: A little of both. I believe that the universe was created by God with the specific intention of giving rise to intelligent life. Given that we observe DNA to be the information molecule of all living things, one can regard therefore it as the “Logos” that God has used to speak life into being. Don’t misunderstand me, it is clear that the process of evolution by natural selection over hundreds of millions of years is the “how” that explains the marvelous diversity of life. But that doesn’t provide the answer to “why.” I think God provides that answer.
http://www.explorefaith.org/faces/my_fai...cience.php

so..you know...meh-ish......perhaps someone could find the hundreds of millions of years long campaign of intentional creation in evolutionary theory that collins is referring to, here, for me? Collins, brilliant as he is..believes in evolution™.

IMO, it takes a brilliant mind to square that business away so neatly. The dummies can't manage it, so they're always in a state of, "durr, where are the crocoducks? Checkmate atheist!".
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RE: The Never-Addressed reasons that lead me to Atheism
August 20, 2018 at 9:21 pm
(August 16, 2018 at 2:07 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
(August 16, 2018 at 1:18 pm)Chimera7 Wrote: That's an interesting choice of words. I suppose it was the Cult of Catholicism

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RE: The Never-Addressed reasons that lead me to Atheism
August 20, 2018 at 10:10 pm
Quote:because plenty of theists accept evolution.

Yeah but then they think that their stupid fucking god started it.  They wouldn't be theists if they weren't infantile at heart.
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