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On Hell and Forgiveness
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All this sauce, and yet no actual arguments!
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RE: On Hell and Forgiveness
(August 29, 2018 at 11:38 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: All this sauce, and yet no actual arguments!
A sauce with no flavor or  texture
Seek strength, not to be greater than my brother, but to fight my greatest enemy -- myself.

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(August 29, 2018 at 11:08 am)Tizheruk Wrote:
Quote:Your objection is that God is not evident enough. But do the facts really support that? If that were the case, then there would be less people believing in God every year--not more. So the real problem is that God is not evident to you in a way you are satisfied with. What is the reason you do not believe the billions of people who believe in God? 
That does not follow more people can believe in something  not evident .Your simply blaming the skeptic and trying to insinuate some personnel failing as the cause  .When it could be just as likely the billion are wrong and the one is right .

Quote:Lol you dish out personal attacks all the time.
So your in favor of more personnel attacks then ?

Not in the slightest. Just found ironic.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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(August 29, 2018 at 10:57 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote:
(August 29, 2018 at 10:23 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: Since neither of those actually describes my point or what I was doing, they are nothing but straw men, and the charge that you were just jerking off remains.  I neither insulted Steve, nor used an argument of convenience.  Steve's position was undermined by the biblical text, so I pointed it out.  If you have a problem with that and wish to read all sorts of things into my simply quoting two verses from the bible, sans any commentary, then knock yourself out.  The rest of us will see it for what it is, a groundless personal attack which you couldn't justify on its merits and so are resorting to making bankrupt and false insinuations about me.  Now if you don't have anything of substance to add to the conversation, you can take your personal attacks and kindly fuck off.

Lol you dish out personal attacks all the time.

I rarely engage in replies that are solely personal attacks. When I do engage in personal attacks, those personal attacks are usually justified by some matter of substance or are directly relevant to the matter at issue. Unfortunately for Neo, he has nothing of substance backing his personal attacks here. I presume your remark is based upon comments I've made to you in the past which you've found insulting. Unfortunately for you, such personal attacks seem warranted. You seem to be suggesting that the complaints I have made about you and Neo are unjustified. If so, I respectfully disagree. (And no, I do not dish out personal attacks "all the time." In that you seeem to be simply expressing some butthurt. I suggest you get over it.)
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(August 29, 2018 at 11:53 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:
(August 29, 2018 at 10:57 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Lol you dish out personal attacks all the time.

I rarely engage in replies that are solely personal attacks. When I do engage in personal attacks, those personal attacks are usually justified by some matter of substance or are directly relevant to the matter at issue. Unfortunately for Neo, he has nothing of substance backing his personal attacks here. I presume your remark is based upon comments I've made to you in the past which you've found insulting. Unfortunately for you, such personal attacks seem warranted. You seem to be suggesting that the complaints I have made about you and Neo are unjustified. If so, I respectfully disagree. (And no, I do not dish out personal attacks "all the time." In that you seeem to be simply expressing some butthurt. I suggest you get over it.)

Yeah ok Jor. Keep dishing it and not taking it. I'll keep making note of it.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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(August 29, 2018 at 12:08 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:
(August 29, 2018 at 11:53 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: I rarely engage in replies that are solely personal attacks.  When I do engage in personal attacks, those personal attacks are usually justified by some matter of substance or are directly relevant to the matter at issue.  Unfortunately for Neo, he has nothing of substance backing his personal attacks here.  I presume your remark is based upon comments I've made to you in the past which you've found insulting.  Unfortunately for you, such personal attacks seem warranted.  You seem to be suggesting that the complaints I have made about you and Neo are unjustified.  If so, I respectfully disagree.  (And no, I do not dish out personal attacks "all the time."  In that you seeem to be simply expressing some butthurt.  I suggest you get over it.)

Yeah ok Jor. Keep dishing it and not taking it. I'll keep making note of it.

I didn't notice you having any problem pushing back against my personal attacks. Apparently, in addition to being wrong, you're something of a hypocrite.
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(August 23, 2018 at 3:04 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:
(August 23, 2018 at 12:43 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Listen, if it makes y'all feel good or whatever to claim we believe we are engaging in cannibalism, then go for it I suppose lol. I won't ruin your fun.

We're not laughing at you for being a cannibal. We're laughing at you for being stupid enough to swallow the horseshit logic you quoted. Laugh that off if you like.

Cuz, ya know... this has a good argument attached to it besides just calling me stupid and talking about laughing at me because you disagree with my beliefs, when I wasn't rude or disrespectful to anyone.

As I said to Steel a week or so ago when he was concerned for me, I try to be kind to people, but that doesn't mean I'm willing to take them treating me like a POS.

(August 29, 2018 at 12:10 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:
(August 29, 2018 at 12:08 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Yeah ok Jor. Keep dishing it and not taking it. I'll keep making note of it.

I didn't notice you having any problem pushing back against my personal attacks. Apparently, in addition to being wrong, you're something of a hypocrite.

Lol, are you serious right now or gaslighting on purpose?? How about you post my response to you then? My response was literally "There's no reason to talk to me like that Jor." (See post below)

I didn't call you a bitch, or even tell you you're stupid right back.

If my above "push back" was too much for you, I really don't know what to say. Sorry not sorry I suppose.

(August 23, 2018 at 3:17 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:
(August 23, 2018 at 3:04 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: We're not laughing at you for being a cannibal. We're laughing at you for being stupid enough to swallow the horseshit logic you quoted. Laugh that off if you like.

There is really 0 reason for you to talk to me like that Jor.

^proof above

The butthurt is strong with this one!!!!

Oh gosh, next time I'll be sure to "push back" to your personal insults with more sensitivity.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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ROFLOL

Like I said earlier, a lot of sauce, but not much substance. I called you stupid because I felt the argument you were rubber stamping was stupid. You responded to my language rather than the substance of my point. But by all means, continue digging yourself deeper. All you're showing here is that you're a delicate snowflake who can't take criticism.
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(August 29, 2018 at 12:26 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: ROFLOL

Like I said earlier, a lot of sauce, but not much substance. I called you stupid because I felt the argument you were rubber stamping was stupid. You responded to my language rather than the substance of my point. But by all means, continue digging yourself deeper. All you're showing here is that you're a delicate snowflake who can't take criticism.

Then how about forming your own argument to counter mine, rather than just making a short post calling me stupid... and then *claiming* that you never just insult people without making an argument attached to it?

Listen, you can insult people all you want. Just dont lie and expect not to be called out for it. And understand that dishing it and not taking it isn't a good look, and will probably be called out.

Anyway, I've really lost some respect for you and am gonna go ahead and file you away right next to Succumbus. No reason for me to engage with people like that.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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(August 29, 2018 at 12:32 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:
(August 29, 2018 at 12:26 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: ROFLOL

Like I said earlier, a lot of sauce, but not much substance.  I called you stupid because I felt the argument you were rubber stamping was stupid.  You responded to my language rather than the substance of my point.  But by all means, continue digging yourself deeper.  All you're showing here is that you're a delicate snowflake who can't take criticism.

Then how about forming your own argument to counter mine, rather than just making a short post calling me stupid... and then *claiming* that you never just insult people without making an argument attached to it?

Listen, you can insult people all you want. Just dont lie and expect not to be called out for it. And understand that dishing it and not taking it isn't a good look, and will probably be called out.

Anyway, I've really lost some respect for you and am gonna go ahead and file you away right next to Succumbus. No reason for me to engage with people like that.

The argument was implied by the personal attack. There is no conflict there. And I never claimed that I never insult without an argument attached, only that it is rare, and by no means "all the time." I freely admit there are occasions where I have made personal attacks of that nature, but contrary to your slander which started this discussion, they are not as frequent as you claim. And my comments in that thread certainly don't fall into that category. As to your personal opinion of me, c'est la vie. That seems to be the fate of anyone who criticizes you. I guess we're finding out who really can and can't take it.
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