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RE: Billions for Billionaires and Zero for Workers
September 1, 2018 at 9:16 am
(September 1, 2018 at 8:22 am)vorlon13 Wrote: I'd take a gig with them, enjoy the benefits, and never show up for my shift and see how many years it takes to get fired.
About two days. You won't be out of probation for a while. And no country in the world gives probationers job security, never mind the US which doesn't give it to workers in a job with years.
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RE: Billions for Billionaires and Zero for Workers
September 1, 2018 at 10:12 am
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People have interesting ideas about federal employment. Beyond all that, though.... I have to ask..shouldn't we want federal (and state) employment to be attractive? These are the people who administer our services, who maintain our infrastructure.
I'll never take a fed job again, personally, but I hope that their compensation packages remain competitive, though, because I depend on their labor.
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RE: Billions for Billionaires and Zero for Workers
September 1, 2018 at 2:41 pm
(September 1, 2018 at 10:12 am)Khemikal Wrote: People have interesting ideas about federal employment. Beyond all that, though.... I have to ask..shouldn't we want federal (and state) employment to be attractive? These are the people who administer our services, who maintain our infrastructure.
I'll never take a fed job again, personally, but I hope that their compensation packages remain competitive, though, because I depend on their labor.
I've worked a mixture of public and private over the years and the two jobs I've worked hardest in were both in the civil service because a) they were the jobs where I was most properly treated (when trying to become an accountant I was working a job paying me €700 a year over the dole) and b) jobs where I've actually been busy all the time.
A) is the most important because when you're paid well and treated properly you want to do a good job and keep doing it at that.
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RE: Billions for Billionaires and Zero for Workers
September 1, 2018 at 3:23 pm
I think that at least some of people's misconceptions and animus toward government jobs (and government employees) boils down to the fact that they take their own jobs and situations..where they are poorly treated and exploited - to be the proper norm, the right way to do it..and if so, it can seem strange. Take the classic four guys one shovel routine. When you see a 15 up 15 down labor rotation it seems like maybe those guys are just grifting the public till.
-but there's a reason for 15 up 15 down rotations..and there are even applications of 5 up 55 down rotations - where you're paying a guy to be there and be available for an hour even though you're only expecting five minutes of work an hour. Federal and state governments are not interested in being responsible for a raft of heat casualties, legal claims, or insurance issues.
Those arrangements exist to protect the fed and the state from additional costs, not to find a way to pay a guy to do nothing.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Billions for Billionaires and Zero for Workers
September 5, 2018 at 8:15 am
Government work: done at 3, no weekends, a defined benefit pension to look forward to.
If they think they can do better in the private sector, let them try.
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September 5, 2018 at 10:56 am
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(August 31, 2018 at 8:43 pm)Minimalist Wrote: You've been a miserable piece of shit since the day you were born. No point changing now, cocksucker.
https://www.rawstory.com/2018/08/trump-c...l-workers/
Quote:Trump cancels pay raise due to civilian federal workers
After blowing a trillion dollar hole in the budget giving his motherfucking rich pals a massive tax cut.... and himself, too... the walking turd has decided that NOW we need fiscal stability.
Sub-human garbage.
I have never hated an American politician as much as I hate him.
(September 5, 2018 at 8:15 am)alpha male Wrote: Government work: done at 3, no weekends, a defined benefit pension to look forward to.
If they think they can do better in the private sector, let them try.
Hey asshole, if you want to see what "no government" looks like" try Yemen. There is power there, but their power is nothing but rich religious warlords. The mostly poor have no government to protect them.
You are a idiot if you think every fucking thing in our society should be privatized.
You are a self absorbed selfish moron whom thinks all taxes are robbery. Ok dumbass, the next time your house catches on fire, or you need the police at some point , DONT FUCKING CALL THEM because they are government workers too DUMBASS!
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RE: Billions for Billionaires and Zero for Workers
September 6, 2018 at 9:35 am
I like how conservatives are like "OH YEAH! WELL TRY THE PRIVATE SECTOR! THEY PAY THEIR EMPLOYEES CRAPPY!" "BTW PRIVATE SECTOR IS BEST! NO UNIONS!"
"Tradition" is just a word people use to make themselves feel better about being an asshole.
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RE: Billions for Billionaires and Zero for Workers
September 6, 2018 at 11:24 am
(September 5, 2018 at 8:15 am)alpha male Wrote: Government work: done at 3, no weekends, a defined benefit pension to look forward to.
If they think they can do better in the private sector, let them try.
Are you always this stupid or do you just make special efforts when you come here?
Put another way, do you ever know what the fuck you are talking about?
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I gave you the FOX version so even a dickhead like you can understand.
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RE: Billions for Billionaires and Zero for Workers
September 6, 2018 at 12:56 pm
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Hell, Hillary started the ball rolling on the Dems dumping the unions, why wouldn't Trump suck up to them and make them want to have him fuck them ??
Hillary didn't offer anything but a dry hump, and Trump is offering scented lube.
Which one would you pick ???
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RE: Billions for Billionaires and Zero for Workers
September 6, 2018 at 4:56 pm
That was Bill, actually..part of his rightward meandering to dilute the republican brand and secure votes.
Happens alot, though, people confusing one Killington for another.
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