Saudi Arabia

[WinterHold]

I want to tell you about how it is to live inside the kingdom of Saudi Arabia. I want you to see with my eyes and become me for the duration of reading this topic. Documenting my experience in this tomb, wishing to see the sunlight once again or bury it in rubble along with all the stink coming from it. So let's begin.


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Saudi Arabia is very new. It was a country created in 1744 after the alliance of two men: the outlaw nomadic figure "Mohammed Bin Saud" and the religious Sheikh "Mohammed Ibn Abd-Al-Wahhab".


The latter provided the new country with the religious framework it needed to justify its brutal tribal grip that Bin Saud used. So it was always two parallel wings:

1-Tribal (represented by Ibn Saud)

2-Religious (represented by Ibn Abd-Al-Wahhab)


So you now know where the phrase "Wahhabism" came from: Wahhabies are people who believe in the religious way of "Mohammed Ibn Abd Al Wahhab"; it is very legal and correct to say that Wahhabi=the official religion of Saudi Arabia.


The new country used extreme brutality and mass murder under the extreme Jihadi version defined in the Wahhabi religious commands. The country witnessed 3 main revivals; now we're in the third, all witnessed direct links to brutal crimes justified by extreme Wahhabi commands, from the first period's genocides against the Shiite citizens of Iraq to the modern 9/11 and war in Yemen.


The Saud dynasty used the religious wing to suppress any kind of resistence, the charges were ready and justified for any person opposing the
Sauds, the fatwas against the enemies of the state was ready, encapsulated with religious justification.

As the years went by, the country made important alliances with Britain then the United States of America. The Saudi regime was a gold mine
for any power looking for influence in the relious-tribal Middle East; it's the entrance to the region.

With advent of oil, it became even more evident: bring Saudi Arabia to your side, and you will hold the key to the Middle East.

The U.S knew that, and did support the kingdom in so many occasions, to the degree of sending American soldiers to fight side-by-side
with the Saudi terrorist regime in 1991's gulf war.

Right now, under the new generation of the Saud family is a young, psychopathic generation that was corrupted from the centuries of international
silence over the terrible crimes of its parents, and oil money. The insane fresh regime continued to massacre opposing voices, and even extended
that brutality to other countries like Yemen, causing the worst human rights crisis in modern time.

The religious wing witnessed an evolution after being heavily attacked by the tribal wing under the leadership of the current Crown Prince, Mohammed Bin Salman.

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-How does it feel like?

Living in the kingdom is a struggle of constant racism and harassment by the regime. There is a very fine line between native supporters of the
royal clan and between foreign citizens.

Natives themselves are not spared, rather attacked and investigated heavily also, since the Sauds fear any tribal uprising.

Talking -even on the internet- is very dangerous. Ironically people talking against the government are chased and tracked, the methods include
IP tracking, infiltrating web forums, social media accounts, youtube accounts and more.

The government of the Sauds pay billions to control the internet.

If caught, torture and very long years in prison are promised, death is also a favourit option if the target is shown to resist.

It's worse than Orwell's 1984.

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-Request:

Please spread this. Wherever you can, share it, spread it, and spread the awareness against this bloodthirsty regime.
Every voice count.

[WinterHold]

I will post reports from "Human Rights Watch" and other sources documenting the new and fresh Saudi brutal crimes and terrorism against civilians.
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https://www.hrw.org/news/2018/05/06/saud...rbitrarily

Saudi Arabia: Thousands Held Arbitrarily
Dramatic Increase in Detention Without Trial



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[Joods]

Aren't you worried about getting caught talking on an atheist forum?

[WinterHold]

Aren't you worried about getting caught talking on an atheist forum?

Since the tribal wing under the command of MBS (the guy in the picture in the Human Rights Watch report) is demolishing the religious wing; being an atheist is actually an advantage. The religious wing is being hit by the tribal wing.

The kingdom is going bankrupted and its economy is going downwards, so it's trying to survive by rejecting the religious wing, thus gaining the trust of Trump and western investors to invest in the kingdom.

Moreover, I'm counting on God to aid me and keep me safe. I'm dead sure that me being here for almost 6 years wasn't a coincidence, I found this place for a reason and knew you people for a reason too.

[Minimalist]

Moreover, I'm counting on God to aid me and keep me safe.

That's a big mistake.  Better to use a proxy server and clear your history.  Those things exist.

[Fake Messiah]

Right now, under the new generation of the Saud family is a young, psychopathic generation that was corrupted from the centuries of international
silence over the terrible crimes of its parents, and oil money.

Corrupt by oil and money? So atrocities in SA like beheading of disbelievers; the amputation of hands for theft; domestic violence; the killing of polytheists; etc. has nothing to do with Koran and religion?

[Brian37]

Aren't you worried about getting caught talking on an atheist forum?

Since the tribal wing under the command of MBS (the guy in the picture in the Human Rights Watch report) is demolishing the religious wing; being an atheist is actually an advantage. The religious wing is being hit by the tribal wing.

The kingdom is going bankrupted and its economy is going downwards, so it's trying to survive by rejecting the religious wing, thus gaining the trust of Trump and western investors to invest in the kingdom.

Moreover, I'm counting on God to aid me and keep me safe. I'm dead sure that me being here for almost 6 years wasn't a coincidence, I found this place for a reason and knew you people for a reason too.

Atlass, religion is causing that tribalism. Those wanting change there like you believe in the same God those who want to cling to the past do. It is no different in any other religion. You have people who believe but don't want to live under conservative brutal rule, then you have the conservative wing of that religion whom want to stay in a brutal past.

And I wouldn't trust Trump to pick up dog shit. He loves authoritarians, look at how he praises Putin and Kim. 

Our conservatives are freaking out about times changing here too. They hate that a black guy was president. They hate reproductive rights for women. They hate same sex marriage. And they base that fear of change and bigotry on the  bible. Just like your Wahhabists are still ultimately basing their worship of him, on the Koran.

The empathetic left, those whom value pluralism and a open society, believe in the same God/s and holy books as the conservative fearful bigoted right. Those two factions exist in every religious label.

[WinterHold]

I want to tell you about how it is to live inside the kingdom of Saudi Arabia. I want you to see with my eyes and become me for the duration of reading this topic. Documenting my experience in this tomb, wishing to see the sunlight once again or bury it in rubble along with all the stink coming from it. So let's begin.


=============================================


Saudi Arabia is very new. It was a country created in 1744 after the alliance of two men: the outlaw nomadic figure "Mohammed Bin Saud" and the religious Sheikh "Mohammed Ibn Abd-Al-Wahhab".


The latter provided the new country with the religious framework it needed to justify its brutal tribal grip that Bin Saud used. So it was always two parallel wings:

1-Tribal (represented by Ibn Saud)

2-Religious (represented by Ibn Abd-Al-Wahhab)


So you now know where the phrase "Wahhabism" came from: Wahhabies are people who believe in the religious way of "Mohammed Ibn Abd Al Wahhab"; it is very legal and correct to say that Wahhabi=the official religion of Saudi Arabia.


The new country used extreme brutality and mass murder under the extreme Jihadi version defined in the Wahhabi religious commands. The country witnessed 3 main revivals; now we're in the third, all witnessed direct links to brutal crimes justified by extreme Wahhabi commands, from the first period's genocides against the Shiite citizens of Iraq to the modern 9/11 and war in Yemen.


The Saud dynasty used the religious wing to suppress any kind of resistence, the charges were ready and justified for any person opposing the
Sauds, the fatwas against the enemies of the state was ready, encapsulated with religious justification.

As the years went by, the country made important alliances with Britain then the United States of America. The Saudi regime was a gold mine
for any power looking for influence in the relious-tribal Middle East; it's the entrance to the region.

With advent of oil, it became even more evident: bring Saudi Arabia to your side, and you will hold the key to the Middle East.

The U.S knew that, and did support the kingdom in so many occasions, to the degree of sending American soldiers to fight side-by-side
with the Saudi terrorist regime in 1991's gulf war.

Right now, under the new generation of the Saud family is a young, psychopathic generation that was corrupted from the centuries of international silence over the terrible crimes of its parents, and oil money. The insane fresh regime continued to massacre opposing voices, and even extended that brutality to other countries like Yemen, causing the worst human rights crisis in modern time.

The religious wing witnessed an evolution after being heavily attacked by the tribal wing under the leadership of the current Crown Prince, Mohammed Bin Salman.

===============================================================================

-How does it feel like?

Living in the kingdom is a struggle of constant racism and harassment by the regime. There is a very fine line between native supporters of the
royal clan and between foreign citizens.

Natives themselves are not spared, rather attacked and investigated heavily also, since the Sauds fear any tribal uprising.

Talking -even on the internet- is very dangerous. Ironically people talking against the government are chased and tracked, the methods include
IP tracking, infiltrating web forums, social media accounts, youtube accounts and more.

The government of the Sauds pay billions to control the internet.

If caught, torture and very long years in prison are promised, death is also a favourit option if the target is shown to resist.

It's worse than Orwell's 1984.

==========
-Request:

Please spread this. Wherever you can, share it, spread it, and spread the awareness against this bloodthirsty regime.
Every voice count.

Ain't I right?
I wasn't lying..

You have a moral debt to help expose this regime.
You have a dept, all of you.

You know the truth now.
You all heard about Jamal Kashoggi. Are you all going to ignore it like it didn't happen?

Kashoggi's case was exposed. Think about what is not exposed; how much other crimes take place without being exposed, there in the dark stinky prisons of this hellish kingdom.

[WinterHold]

Talking -even on the internet- is very dangerous. Ironically people talking against the government are chased and tracked, the methods include
IP tracking, infiltrating web forums, social media accounts, youtube accounts and more.

The government of the Sauds pay billions to control the internet.

If caught, torture and very long years in prison are promised, death is also a favourit option if the target is shown to resist.

It's worse than Orwell's 1984.

==========
-Request:

Please spread this. Wherever you can, share it, spread it, and spread the awareness against this bloodthirsty regime.
Every voice count.

Please, spread this it might save a life or two

[dyresand]

holy shit dude get a vpn quickly