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3 simple points to end the discussion with any Sunni/Shiite
#61
RE: 3 simple points to end the discussion with any Sunni/Shiite
Quote:Attila killed his own brother, respected no oaths too and was known for his "fierce (mad ?) gaze". I think it's quite biased to compare him to Mohammed in terms of morals.

Attila was a real barbarian.  Your boyfriend Mo is an imaginary barbarian dreamed up by some desert-dwelling propagandist.

And I certainly am not impressed by the message of any of these phony religious myths.  I thought you understood that by now.
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#62
RE: 3 simple points to end the discussion with any Sunni/Shiite
(September 12, 2018 at 8:22 am)WinterHold Wrote:  The basic grounds for any successful debates with a Wahhabi is very simple. Use the Quran only and don't allow the Wahhabi/Sunni/Shiite resort to the Hadith.

Question begging, you're assuming that the hadith is unreliable to defeat the Wahhabis who think it's indeed reliable. 

(September 12, 2018 at 8:22 am)WinterHold Wrote: 2-Bring up the victims and fatalities that fell due to following the Hadith:

fell due to following the hadith.. lol. I won't break a sweat responding to this ridiculous claim, suffice it to say that you're arguing from consequences. That's a fallacy, invalid.

(September 12, 2018 at 8:22 am)WinterHold Wrote: 3-Show him that Sunni Islam and Shiite Islam are perfect religions for any dictator.

If a dictator goes against the core teachings of Sunni Islam, Muslims are explcitly allowed to overthrow him by any means necessary. I think that's enough to invalidate your claim.
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#63
RE: 3 simple points to end the discussion with any Sunni/Shiite
(September 15, 2018 at 7:15 am)Jehanne Wrote: Mohammad displayed all the symptoms of temporal lobe epilepsy (as did Paul);

Ah, not this again. You can't compose something like the Qur'an while having a seizure, nor in the postictal period, because that's what the prophet did, assuming your claim is true.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4150615/
Quote :  "Patients with temporal lobe epilepsy (TLE) often have a brief postictal state characterized by confusion and disorientation.".

How can anyone in a state of disorientation come up with the most brilliant piece of Arabic literature of all time ? I'll wait for the answer, so you can help Muslims out of their delusion.  

Because of this, modern orientalist scholars of Islam  (Nöldeke, Montgomery Watt, to name a few) reject this diagnosis. The prophet PBUH's revelations are truly a mystery, and they are overall better explained by appeal to a supernatural cause.
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#64
RE: 3 simple points to end the discussion with any Sunni/Shiite
(August 7, 2022 at 6:34 pm)Klorophyll Wrote:
(September 15, 2018 at 7:15 am)Jehanne Wrote: Mohammad displayed all the symptoms of temporal lobe epilepsy (as did Paul);

Ah, not this again. You can't compose something like the Qur'an while having a seizure, nor in the postictal period, because that's what the prophet did, assuming your claim is true.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4150615/
Quote :  "Patients with temporal lobe epilepsy (TLE) often have a brief postictal state characterized by confusion and disorientation.".

How can anyone in a state of disorientation come up with the most brilliant piece of Arabic literature of all time ? I'll wait for the answer, so you can help Muslims out of their delusion.  

Because of this, modern orientalist scholars of Islam  (Nöldeke, Montgomery Watt, to name a few) reject this diagnosis. The prophet PBUH's revelations are truly a mystery, and they are overall better explained by appeal to a supernatural cause.

I stand by my claim that I made almost 4 years ago -- seizures are episodic. When such things were not well understood, all manner of embellishments took place.
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#65
RE: 3 simple points to end the discussion with any Sunni/Shiite
(August 7, 2022 at 6:34 pm)Klorophyll Wrote:
(September 15, 2018 at 7:15 am)Jehanne Wrote: Mohammad displayed all the symptoms of temporal lobe epilepsy (as did Paul);

Ah, not this again. You can't compose something like the Qur'an while having a seizure, nor in the postictal period, because that's what the prophet did, assuming your claim is true.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4150615/
Quote :  "Patients with temporal lobe epilepsy (TLE) often have a brief postictal state characterized by confusion and disorientation.".

How can anyone in a state of disorientation come up with the most brilliant piece of Arabic literature of all time ? I'll wait for the answer, so you can help Muslims out of their delusion.  

Because of this, modern orientalist scholars of Islam  (Nöldeke, Montgomery Watt, to name a few) reject this diagnosis. The prophet PBUH's revelations are truly a mystery, and they are overall better explained by appeal to a supernatural cause.

Bold Italic mine....no comment needed.
  
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#66
RE: 3 simple points to end the discussion with any Sunni/Shiite
It's funny how religious people think their books are great works of literature.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter
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#67
RE: 3 simple points to end the discussion with any Sunni/Shiite
(August 8, 2022 at 5:42 am)Tomato Wrote: It's funny how religious people think their books are great works of literature.

I have a much simpler method of ending a discussion with any Sunni/Shiite:

'I'm tired of listening to you. Please go away.'

(Also effective with Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Pagans, and acolytes of the Church Of The Extremely Maculate Inception).

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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#68
RE: 3 simple points to end the discussion with any Sunni/Shiite
(August 8, 2022 at 5:42 am)Tomato Wrote: It's funny how religious people think their books are great works of literature.

And it's also funny how religious people are indoctrinated to think that the originator of their religion was a flawless human being. Scientologists think that for Ron Hubbard, Muslims for Muhammad, Christians for Jesus, etc.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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#69
RE: 3 simple points to end the discussion with any Sunni/Shiite
This would work...

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#70
RE: 3 simple points to end the discussion with any Sunni/Shiite
(August 8, 2022 at 5:55 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(August 8, 2022 at 5:42 am)Tomato Wrote: It's funny how religious people think their books are great works of literature.

I have a much simpler method of ending a discussion with any Sunni/Shiite:

'I'm tired of listening to you. Please go away.'

(Also effective with Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Pagans, and acolytes of the Church Of The Extremely Maculate Inception).

Boru

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