Good Christians only may answer...

[Gawdzilla Sama]

I've always seen it like this:

"Can you stop being a cunt for five minutes?"

"God always answers prayers, it's just that sometimes the answer is 'no'." 

[Fake Messiah]

It says in the Bible that whatever you pray for, if you're a good Christian, it will be granted to you. So why didn't any good Christian pray for Florence to miss land completely? 

In Christ's name.. whatever we pray for in Christ's name is the condition.

What that means is we are asking on the behalf of Christ not just saying his name. this means we are restricted for the things Christ would want for us to have.

You really don't know Bible because Jesus promises powers to Christians more potent than those of himself and Jesus is clear about it: John 14:12 says, "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father."

And also Jesus wants his believers to move mountains around, Matthew 17:20 says, "Jesus said unto them .... If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you."

Not to mention most famous of all passages promising believers supernatural powers which provides one of the most readily accessible tests for the Bible's validity. In Mark 16:17-18, Jesus says, "These signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; they shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover."

Even today, Americans are dying because these verses are in the Bible. Unfortunately, all too often children pay the price for their parents' stupidity. Those who choose to put their God-inspired book to the test and really believe they can drink any deadly thing and play with dangerous serpents with impunity are headed toward catastrophe.

[Neo-Scholastic]

Even today, Americans are dying because these verses are in the Bible.

Citations, please.

And BTW you have the same literal and ignorant approach to scripture as the very people you ridicule for having a literal and ignorant approach to scripture.

[Drich]

don't like the taste of crow huh? Can't admit when your wrong... Hmm I wonder if anyone would ever expect anyone to ever admit when they are wrong given an environment where doing so seems to be the unforgivable sin.

Well here's the thing. Facts show you that you are wrong despite any lack of moral fortitude that would demand you own up to your misquote/ignorance or laziness when quoting the bible.

That's good enough for me, any squirming or objection by you of the truth is only icing on the cake for me!

How about I just laugh at you and wonder about that extraneous "r".

How about I have the last laugh because you are still having a discussion with other empty coconuts citing the same misquoted passage I pointed out from the beginning??

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Go tell Him he got it wrong then. He needed a better stenographer.  Oh, wait...

No... the takeaway from Drippy's POV must be that Christ "wanted" 30-some people to die, 600,000 to be without power and millions of others to have their homes ruined by massive amounts of water. Therefore, Florence was allowed to continue on her merry way of death and destruction.

death is not a sin moron.

especially when you are told to move and you stay. then death becomes a warning. Hey stupid people you live in a terrible state for storms, move your asses when one comes. boom 30 dead this is how serious.. 30 out of maybe 13 million but still serious warning.

Not a big deal, why because in my world view death is not the end. death is only a crime when one feels entitled to live 200 years because this life is all you got. or you are an unrepentant d-bag and you fear God. otherwise life death are the two sides of the same coin. grow up a little maybe then we can have a real conversation about existence in this life and or the next.

simple minds need pic to do the talking for them.. How about this the bible is the word of God. how do you know? because it is a map to God. if you follow the map it literally places you before God. You will know when God reaches out to you. and that is where Christianity differs from every other religion. it put the believer in direct contact with God, every other religion needs a prophet or priest or some sort of go between. In christianity the proof is with God.

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Prayer is such a bizarre concept. One must make a distinction between prayers which are intended to make some sort of difference, and those which aren't. Both cases are strange to me.

If you expect it to make a difference, that means you're advising God on how better to implement his plan than how he was going to do it, and that he agrees with your improvement.

If you don't expect it to make a difference, you may as well just say, "I hope this happens..." like any atheist would do. It's an attempt to make someone else, or yourself, feel better or feel cared about. Otherwise, you're saying, "Please do whatever you were going to do anyway". That's rather a pointless statement. It's doubly strange, because it means you won't actually be happy if god's plan doesn't agree with what you want to happen.

If in fact God has always had a plan and always follows it regardless of prayer, then you're just cheerleading, and anything you have to say about potential outcomes is irrelevant.

actually most of you do not even understand the concept of prayer.

You are describing petitions. meaning where you ask God to change something or give you something... this is not prayer.

Prayer is thanks and asking God to change you. 

God seldom answers petitions but always answers prayer.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Pond scum has requested we not use it when making comparisons.

[Fake Messiah]

Even today, Americans are dying because these verses are in the Bible.

Citations, please.

And BTW you have the same literal and ignorant approach to scripture as the very people you ridicule for having a literal and ignorant approach to scripture.

"Citations, please." and then you proceed the next sentence completely aware that these people exist and compare me with them for taking Bible "too literal", while your beloved Drich takes Bible so literal that he thinks universe is 6000 years old, that humans lived with dinosaurs on the ark during the world wide flood and all other nonsense from the Bible - but yeah I'm problematic.

[Crossless2.0]

Citations, please.

And BTW you have the same literal and ignorant approach to scripture as the very people you ridicule for having a literal and ignorant approach to scripture.

"Citations, please." and then you proceed the next sentence completely aware that these people exist and compare me with them for taking Bible "too literal", while your beloved Drich takes Bible so literal that he thinks universe is 6000 years old, that humans lived with dinosaurs on the ark during the world wide flood and all other nonsense from the Bible - but yeah I'm problematic.

Drich has some batshit ideas, but he isn't a YEC. That trope needs to die.

[Drich]

You really don't know Bible because Jesus promises powers to Christians more potent than those of himself and Jesus is clear about it: John 14:12 says, "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father."

what is 'greater' moron? greater is a matter of perspective give to us through the dead burial and resurrection it is the benfit of hind site and being about to speak about the full fillment of God's plan. Jesus' hands were tied and spoke in parables and riddles. we can do more because we are free to speak of everything and draw conclusions he was restricted by the father from doing examples:

And also Jesus wants his believers to move mountains around, Matthew 17:20 says, "Jesus said unto them .... If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you."

How can we do this through the Holy Spirit. I try and tell you monkeys (Darwin joke) the same thing That if you put the faith of a mustard seed in God The Holy Spirit, and the Spirit will remove mountains of doubt. how? because God Himself via the Spirit shows up. Would that not answer all doubt? If you had the smallest amount of faith and truly put it into the SPirit and the Spirit shows up. Could then anything anyone said shake you? if someone dropped a mountain of doubt on you, and you know without a doubt you met the living God, could you not then throw that whole mountain of doubt into the ocean?

That is what Jesus is referring to. how do I know? God showed up for me. and how do I stand up to the mountain of doubt you all throw at me? because I know what I saw was 1000% real nothing from here on out for the rest of my life will ever cause me to doubt it. No matter how dark things get I know what I experiences was true and did happen, and in my case everything my angel said to me has happened (still an outstanding thing or two I am working on now) but the

Not to mention most famous of all passages promising believers supernatural powers which provides one of the most readily accessible tests for the Bible's validity. In Mark 16:17-18, Jesus says, "These signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; they shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover."

some can, we are al different members of the same body meaning on one hand if we belong to the body if a member can do this great thing then it is attributed to all of us while at the same time a hand maybe able to take up a serpent but an ear may not be able to pick up a snake. we are not all built as hands not all of us in the church have the same function nor are we all meant to operate and worship the same way. one body one church many parts, many ways to worship and serve.

Even today, Americans are dying because these verses are in the Bible.

I googled it.. no one had died because of these verses

Unfortunately, all too often children pay the price for their parents' stupidity.

you are thinking of hipsters who will not immunise the children against disease. this is not a christian thing this is a holistic super vegan or conspiracy nut theory thing.

Those who choose to put their God-inspired book to the test and really believe they can drink any deadly thing and play with dangerous serpents with impunity are headed toward catastrophe.

googled snake handling deaths I got a 2018 story on a 2014 event and the guy lived... where are you getting this mountain of people dying because of snake handling.

[Crossless2.0]

googled snake handling deaths I got a 2018 story on a 2014 event and the guy lived... where are you getting this mountain of people dying because of snake handling.

I don't vouch for the accuracy of this information, but Wikipedia lists the following in their article on Snake Handling. Not exactly a mountain of people dying, but -- if accurate -- a bunch of completely unnecessary deaths, nonetheless:

• The first report of a death from a serpent bite occurred in 1922 at the Church of God Evangel.[55]
  
  
• In 1955, George Went Hensley, the founder of modern snake handling in the Appalachian Mountains, died after being bitten by a rattlesnake during a service in Altha, Florida.[7][56][57]
  
  
• In 1961, Columbia Chafin Hagerman died after being bitten by a timber rattlesnake during a service at the Church of the Lord Jesus, Jolo, West Virginia.[52][58][59]
  
  
• In 1967, Jean Saylor, wife of a snake-handling preacher, died after being bitten by a rattlesnake in Bell County, Kentucky.[60]
  
  
• In 1982, Rev John Holbrook died after being bitten by a rattlesnake during a service at the Lord Jesus Church in Jesus' Name in Mullensville, West Virginia.[61][62][63][64][65]
  
  
• In 1983, Mack Ray Wolford died after being bitten by a timber rattlesnake during a service at the Lord Jesus Temple in Mile Branch, near Iaeger, West Virginia.[63][65][66][67]
  
  
• In 1995, Melinda Brown from Parrottsville, Tennessee died after being bitten by a timber rattlesnake during a service at the Full Gospel Tabernacle in Jesus Name in Middlesboro, Kentucky.[30][37][47][68][69]
  
  
• In 1995, Kale Saylor (husband of Jean), a Pentecostal preacher, died after being bitten by a rattlesnake during a service at a church in Crockett, Kentucky.[60]
  
  
• In 1997, Daril Colins died after being bitten by a snake during a service in Bell County, Kentucky.[60]
  
  
• In 1998, John Wayne "Punkin" Brown (husband of Melinda), a snake-handling evangelist, died after being bitten by a timber rattlesnake during a service at the Rock House Holiness Church in rural northeastern Alabama.[37][70]
  
  
• In 2004, Dwayne Long, a Pentecostal pastor, died after being bitten by a rattlesnake during a service in Jonesville, Virginia.[71][72][73]
  
  
• In 2006, Linda Long died after being bitten by a timber rattlesnake during a service at East London Holiness Church, London, Kentucky.[45][74][75][76]
  
  
• In 2012, Mark Randall "Mack" Wolford (son of Mack), a Pentecostal pastor, died after being bitten by a timber rattlesnake while officiating at an outdoor service at Panther Wildlife Management Area, West Virginia.[67][77]
  
  
• In 2014, Jamie Coots died after being bitten by a timber rattlesnake during a service at the Full Gospel Tabernacle in Jesus Name in Middlesboro, Kentucky.[40][69][78] Coots starred in the TV series Snake Salvation and his death was widely reported.[79]
  
  
• In 2015, John Brock died after being bitten by a rattlesnake during a service at Mossie Simpson Pentecostal Church in Jenson, Kentucky.[46][80][81][82]
  

[Fake Messiah]

"Citations, please." and then you proceed the next sentence completely aware that these people exist and compare me with them for taking Bible "too literal", while your beloved Drich takes Bible so literal that he thinks universe is 6000 years old, that humans lived with dinosaurs on the ark during the world wide flood and all other nonsense from the Bible - but yeah I'm problematic.

Drich has some batshit ideas, but he isn't a YEC. That trope needs to die.

I know he doesn't accept biological evolution so what is he?